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ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
edited July 2003 in Hardware
I recieved the mobo before 7 hours and emediatly started to connect it. I was slow and carefull and I took everything out form the comp and firstly installed the screws onto it for my Alpha (sign). Then I took everything back into the place.
I turned the comp on and it booted very fast (good i thought ;)
There was an error message something like CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded (don't know exactly). There were two choices F1 to continue and Del for the BIOS. I went into the BIOS and looked at the new Soft Menu and everything. Then I saved things and restarted. IT WOULDN'T BOOT!!!! WTF?! I turned it down and cleared the CMOS. I turned it on againand there was again that CMOS checksum error message. I pressed F1 to continue. After few second it rebooted. It booted and there was a new error message, something like Your CPU is not working or you changed the CPU. I went againg into BIOs, set the things and rebooted but again it wouldn't boot. I unpluged it and cleared the CMOS. Then I started all over again till that second message.
Then I changed the XPU and putted my old TB 1.33Ghz. SAME THING. I don't know what's with this MOBO!
Is it dead, damged and HOW TO FIX THIS!?!?!?!
Please help, I'm back on my old KR7A...

I waisted 7 FREAKING HOURS on this mobo and I'm MAAAAAAAAAAAD.... Please help, what the peeeeep to do?!?!?!
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  • dydxdydx Cymru, UK
    edited June 2003
    Sounds like you got a duff board. RMA it.

    Good luck with the replacement.


    mD
  • septimusseptimus Toronto, Canada
    edited June 2003
    Do this... next time you get the machine to boot up, go into the BIOS and instead of setting everything up load "Fail Safe Defaluts" or "Optimized Defaults" and save... if after doing that the machine will not boot...
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    It won't boot even after that. I've tried that too. looks like RMA or something, but that's gonna take weeks. If someone has any suggestions please tell me couse I'm gonn aget evev madder.
  • septimusseptimus Toronto, Canada
    edited June 2003
    take it back to where you bought it from. RMA to the manufacturer should be a last resort as it takes a long time ;)
  • JimboraeJimborae Newbury, Berks, UK New
    edited June 2003
    I'd say stick with it for a little longer. Mine did that at first, then it wouldn't allow any overclocking. Then I flashed the bios and bang everything was sweet & worked. Have you tried flashing the bios. When it reboots keep pressing f1 to get it to boot at defualt values. If you cant get that far then it may be a lost cause. :(

    Jim
  • AMD-FanAMD-Fan Virginia Beach
    edited June 2003
    Sounds like your bios is not set up correctly. Go into your Bios
    and manually make the settings using your motherboard owners
    manual as a guide. The number one thing to check is your CPU
    or processor speed. good luck
  • Omega65Omega65 Philadelphia, Pa
    edited June 2003
    1) remove the mobo from the case and try to boot outside of the case

    2) Try one stick of memory or try a different stick of memory

    3) try a new(er) PSU - I recommend a 500w or better
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2003
    sounds like SNF2DS to me- my A7N8X-Deluxe did something similar to me a few weeks ago. Take the board back/RMA it.
  • EQuitoEQuito SoCal, USA
    edited June 2003
    Reboot while pressing the 'insert' key and as suggested before, set the bios to default or optimized, save (F10) and exit. Reboot again, if it worked now you can set the values to your likings.
    Don't be alarm if you see a big red message while a second reboot occurs, that's normal.

    Good luck!
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    I tried everything but with no luck. The only thing that comes onto my mind is that ATX12V jack for power. You know, that power jack next to the main ATX power. It has 4 holes. The problem is that I don't have a cable from the PSU to fit in that.
    But I've read in the manula that if I don't have a cable to put in there then I don't have to because the mobo will still work.

    I don't know. I can only try and flash the BIOS and see what will happen.

    Stay tuned!!! ;)
  • hprhpr :o hi o:
    edited June 2003
    Heh, thats great, I just got one of these "lovely" boards and now windows wont even start anymore after i fresh installed because i get a "page_fualt_in_nonpaged_area" error, tried xp and 2k they both give the equivalent message, but i can use mandrake 9.1 fine (except the onboard nic wont recognize :x ) its really starting to piss me off to ..... >:[
  • edited June 2003
    Originally posted by Elbowhite
    I don't know. I can only try and flash the BIOS and see what will happen.

    Stay tuned!!! ;)
    If you can not get the computer to boot, you can not flash the bios in it.

    Did you take it out of the case as Omega suggested?? You would not be the first with a short in the box.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    "If you can not get the computer to boot, you can not flash the bios in it."

    Subject to discussion. The CTRL+HOME option may work if it is still implemented in BIOS'

    NS
  • MissilemanMissileman Orlando, Florida Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    What bios you have in it? The bios reads the cpu, but doesn't change to the right one. It sticks on the fastest one for that type. Next time you get it to boot go into cmos and enter your cpu settings manually. Multiplier and FSB. Save it and it will work fine from then on.

    Hope it helps
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by Elbowhite
    I tried everything but with no luck. The only thing that comes onto my mind is that ATX12V jack for power. You know, that power jack next to the main ATX power. It has 4 holes. The problem is that I don't have a cable from the PSU to fit in that.



    You don't need that extra 12v connector. If your psu has it then you can use it, but it's not necessary or anything.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited June 2003
    I'm telling ya, it's a dead board. Trust me. The Nforce2 has been known to do this for some time. My A7N8X-Deluxe did EXACTLY THE SAME THING a few weeks ago. Either RMA it, return it, or just buy a new board. You aren't gonna save this one, unless I'm wrong, and I'm 99.999999...% sure I'm not...
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    I'll try one more time tommorow without putting the mobo in the case and with a diffrent CPU, GPU, mem...
    I'm 95% sure that the mobo is dead ;( and i've contacted the dealer but I'm gonna try one more time to be sure.
    I'll tell the info tommorow.
    Bye
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    Yeah, looks like the mobo is totaly dead. I called the dealer and I'll recieve the replacement next week on monday. I'm praying that that one won't be sc**wed u also.
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    To continue this story, I had a conversation with my dealer an hour ago and we talked about an hour... I won't go into details because there was alot of /$#%"!$"&.
    Anyway, tommorow I'll recieve my replacement, Zalman ZM80A-Hp and a new DVD drive. It's gonna overclocky ;)
    I'm just praying that he will send me a good mobo without any failures.

    The next thing that I'm scared of is putting my Alpha heatsink onto it. My friend also bouth a new mobo (Asus A7n8x) and he screwed up his by putting his Alpha. The thing is that when you're putting those screwes onto the mobo the plastic ones that are down below can damadge your mobo. Thta's the thing that I'm afraid of happening to me.
    Any ideas how to do it safely. The last time that I have put those screws corectly was a year and a half ago when I bought my KR7A. ;)
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited June 2003
    Are you talking about your standoffs? The ones in my case just screw into the motherboard plate and you screw into them through the motherboard.
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by Clutch
    Are you talking about your standoffs? The ones in my case just screw into the motherboard plate and you screw into them through the motherboard.
    Clutch
    No, he's referring to the mounting studs for the H/S. It uses the same type mounting studs as a water block.

    Elbowhite
    Just make sure you use the correct size washers and be careful not to your tools to the mobo. I got tired of having to remove my mobo from the case each time I wanted to remove the H/S and replaced my Alpha with a SLK-800. Just remember that if you were able to install it the first time when you originally got it, you will no doubt be able to do it again.;)
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited June 2003
    I'll do my best of installing it. Wish my luck tommorow when I'm gonna recieve it.
    Cheers!
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited July 2003
    The storry goes on...

    I forgot to tell you the last time that I sended the mobo to the dealer for him to check it out on his own parts. I was 100% sure that he will also find out that the mobo is dead.
    but NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! He contacted me by e-mail today and sayd that the mobo is doing fine and that he has run 3d mark and sanda on it with no problems.
    WTF!??!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
    If you remember I changed every component for the CPU to memory and CD drive and it wasn't working.
    How the %/#(!/# did it suddenly started to work at him, I don't know. A repled to him to send me the list of components that he used to test the mobo.
    I mean, how is this possible? Maybe it's not dead. Maybe......... I don't know...... What the hell I'm supposed to do now?!?!?!
  • ClutchClutch North Carolina New
    edited July 2003
    Either he is pulling your leg, or the board really is working. Did you try the board outside of the case and clear cmos and all? I can't remember, and I'm to lazy to look back into the thread :)
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    If you have the time and the patience try it again and let the vendor know that if it doesn't work you will want satisfaction on the transaction. Maybe since it has posted once it will be fine now!
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited July 2003
    I don't know anything any more, I just took a drug for my headacke. I'll probably recieve it tommorow and try everything AGAIN. we'll se tommorow when I recieve it. If I recieve it. Maybe he didn't send it... who knows.... In the mean time I'll clean and load up my gun... and this time I'm deadly serious
  • ElbowhiteElbowhite Croatia
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Clutch
    Either he is pulling your leg, or the board really is working. Did you try the board outside of the case and clear cmos and all? I can't remember, and I'm to lazy to look back into the thread :)

    I tried that when I had it last time and it even wouldn't boot when it was out of the case. I cleared the CMOS for abut 50 times....
  • edited July 2003
    Um.... First, leave in clear position for a minute. then change CMOS BATTERY (should be thing in flat socket that is silver and about size of 1.2 US nickels-- 27-30 cm-- across). With new battery in clear for 30-40 seconds only. home depot cheapest place for batteries, next closest in price is WalMart. Clearing CMOS can run battrey down too-- shouldn't, but can with some mobos that flow inverse voltage from battery through CMOS to wipe it.

    Once cleared, please boot once and on that boot load default settings in Setup routine for mobo and do not load turbo settings if it posts. Oh, and if you test out of case you need to have on the pink or gray foam that should have come with it, or on the anti-static bag it came with and power plugged into it-- laying right on metal will nicely drain CMOS cell when you plug in PSU (battery will be grounded and drain through PSU bond or CMOS will get scrambled as many little contact nubbins touch metal all at once and mobo goes NUTS-- only certain places on mobo are supposed to be grounded, the screw holes with silvers soldered places around them).

    Hope that helps some.

    John Danielson.
    Running with mobo on top of anti-stat bag for a short time is fine if fans for CPU and video card run.
  • edited July 2003
    hi,

    if you're using bios 16 you have to put your rams in slot 2 + 3 for dual channel action.
    by the way : what rams you're using ?

    there seems to be a problems with the new winbond ch-5 modules, which are on the new corsair twinxx modules as well as on the twinmos

    greetings,

    giant

    :D:D
  • Mt_GoatMt_Goat Head Cheezy Knob Pflugerville (north of Austin) Icrontian
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Elbowhite
    I don't know anything any more, I just took a drug for my headacke. I'll probably recieve it tommorow and try everything AGAIN. we'll se tommorow when I recieve it. If I recieve it. Maybe he didn't send it... who knows.... In the mean time I'll clean and load up my gun... and this time I'm deadly serious
    Now Now......Keep the drugs and guns in separate corners!:D

    But drugs are good for pain as long as you know you limit...I mean doasage. And guns should most definitely be thought of as a last resort (Just make sure you keep them pointed in a safe direction).



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