3DMark03 Build 340 ATi v. nVidia

CAGCAG Boca Raton, Florida
edited December 2003 in Hardware
This patch is designed to allow different make graphics cards to be compared on an equal basis and to prevent driver "cheating". Read about it here http://www.nordichardware.com/article/2003/3DMark03_340/
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  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited November 2003
    Moved To Benchmarking Forum ;)

    Humm... newest version eh? Time to try it out.
  • Al_CapownAl_Capown Indiana
    edited November 2003
    Awesome. Way to go FutureMark.
  • CAGCAG Boca Raton, Florida
    edited November 2003
    You gotta give nVidia high marks for consistency. Everytime they shoot, they invariably hit their feet.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    can't tell if this is good or not but at least I'll have a benchmark for later reference.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    All Futuremark did was to disable the compilers in Nvidia's forceware drivers...oddly enough they left ATI's compilers alone.
    I ran it and I lost maybe 500 points...bfd.
    Compare for yourselves
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    what aperture size do you run the v9950ultra at madmat?
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    In bios? I run a 128meg aperature.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited November 2003
    CAG had this to say
    You gotta give nVidia high marks for consistency. Everytime they shoot, they invariably hit their feet.

    ROFLMFAO!

    That's the way it's been lately, anyhow...
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    madmat had this to say
    In bios? I run a 128meg aperature.
    have you tried 64 or even 32? if not do so you might be surprised.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    Thanks, I'll give it a shot...I've actually considered it but never done it.
    I remember a friend of mine picking up a considerable boost after setting his old TI4400 to a 32mb aperature.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Well all I can say is this ...I firmly believe that the more video mem you have the lower your aperture size needs to be ...too little is not good and too much is not as bad but inefficient IMHO ...In your case I would definitely try 32 & 64 as the others may prove to be too high.
  • croc_croc_ New
    edited November 2003
    I was always told aperture should = 50% of system ram size.

    I think once I install my mobo that actually HAS a BIOS where you can CHANGE settings, I wil have to try that out. /me spits on dell
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    croc_ had this to say
    I was always told aperture should = 50% of system ram size.
    yes I've read that also ...don't believe it ...or should I say that 50% of ram is a good rule of thumb but not set in stone.

    "Please note that the AGP aperture is merely address space, not actual physical memory in use. Although it is very common to hear people recommending that the AGP aperture size should be half the size of system memory, that is wrong!"

    Check this article out ... http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=1 ...scroll down til you see "FREE Access to the BIOS Optimization Guide!" and click that and go down to aperture size.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    Well it lowered my 3D Mark score going to 64mb ap. and at 32 it errored out :/
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Well it was worth a shot ...I think that each particular card will have it's own sweet spot depending on a variety of details ...your cards sweet spot might just be at 128 ...mine is definitely between 64 and 128.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    My computer wont even boot at 32, anything higher gives the same score.

    NS
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    It was worth a try.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    ok ...well as a consolation prize you are offered to enter the 3DMark03 Contest @ Guru3D
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Hmmmm ...
    some strange 3DMark03 results

    217x12@2.06v (2.6gb)= 5895
    221X11.5@1.95v (2.5gb)= 5896
    221x11.5@2.0v (2.5gb)= 5924
    221x11.5@2.03 (2.5gb) = 5931
    213x12@2.03 (2.6gb) = 5878
    214x12@2.03 (2.6gb) = 5917
    215x12@2.06 (2.6gb) = 5916

    it seems to be all about the fsb ...shame I can only get 221 out of it ...if I only had water cooling this chip feels like it could go far.

    I'm done with cpu/fsb testing ...now to oc the vid card!

    edit:/ now that this is burned in I can get 230 with tight memtimings and oc'ed vid card ...I should have waited a few more weeks I suppose.
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    It's a combination of the ram bandwidth and the cpu speeds...A higher speed cpu at a lower fsb will not bench as well as a slower one at a higher fsb to an extent.
    I think your results kinda bear that out.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    well I upped the agp voltage to 1.7 and could only oc from my previous 393/366 to 393/393 ...I was expecting too much from the salman I suppose.
    Anyway ...raised my 3dmark03 to this

    393/393 - 221x11.5@2.0v = 5974

    I'm sure I can get higher by raising the vcore but idunno if i wanna go any higher on the agp volts ...is anyone running agp at 1.8v?
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    I am, but, I have the crappy FX card so your results may vary.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    crappy fx card? lol
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    Well that's what everyone else says they are, just thought I'd try to blend in :hiding: by saying the same thing. :crazy:
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    pffffft ...if you like the card who cares what they say? unless they've actually owned one and know it's crap for sure.
  • DogSoldierDogSoldier The heart of radical Amish country..
    edited November 2003
    For god's sake mat, don't be a sheep. bahhhh...baaaahhhh....
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    I guess the sarcasm was unnoticed...
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    excellent system you got there madmat!
  • madmatmadmat
    edited November 2003
    I like it aside from the biology project growing in my watercooler, I'm very pleased with it.
    It's pretty stout and now that I got the bios all sorted out it's real stable and should OC like crazy.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    OPPAINTER pwns us all once again with 9315 3DMarks! kinda reminds me of the old Icrontic days ...:Pwned:
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