Does a change in aperature effect mostly in benchmarks, or does it greatly effect game performance also? Because i have a 9800xt, so should i set the aperature very low, or just fool around with different settings?
My apperature only goes up to 256mb so I can't set it to half my memory total.
Setting it to 256 will have a positive effect on benchmark scores then? I've always set it to half of the card's ram on cards with over 128mb, if they have less I just went 1-1 with the cards vram.
New score... CPU running at 3126Mhz... got my 5900 running at what I believe are 5950 Ultra speeds (475/950). Temps went up a bit but I think im still safe... (about 68C when under load in games)
But for anything else (and if it's not in a laptop) anything over 60'c is bad.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited December 2003
68*C is dangerous even for a thunderbird.
I don't know why you guys think they run hot... the 1.4GHz Tbird puts out less heat than a 2100+ Palomino, or any 3GHz+ P4. I had one for almost a year; under full load, it never exceeded 45*C. EVER. They're not exactly difficult to cool, guys.
Regardless, 68*C is insanely hot. My guess is that you need a case fan upgrade; even the OEM P4 heatsinks are good enough that it shouldn't get that hot.
He's talking about the GPU temp as it's related within the driver interface. My ASUS idled at 63C and hit way higher under load. Kind of the reason for the waterblock.
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited December 2003
OK, I'll throw a monkey wrench into the works. Unless you are comparing waste heat thrown off from the CPU as measured directly from the CPU die, Athlon and P4 (later models) comparisons are difficult at best. There is a huge difference in indicated core temperatures as measured by die versus thermastor. While I'm on this topic - does the NF7S-2 measure from the thermistor? If so, you might need to add 7-10*C to compare to the measured core temp of a P4C, as it's temp is measured via the die itself. (Am I spelling 'die' correctly? )
When I first built my Intel (System 1) box, I was using the OEM aluminum P4 heatsink. Running overclocked at around 3400 MHz with two instances of folding in the background, indicated temperature was around 70-72*C. There were no stability problems whatsoever. Right now, at full bore with an SLK 900U heatsink and Mechatronics 53cfm fan, the system is at 49*C (about 53*C in summer).
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
He's talking about the GPU temp as it's related within the driver interface.
Oh, uh -- maybe my previous post is out of order for the context of this thread. OK then, what video cards have software monitoring available. Other than an add-on probe, how do you monitor a GPU's temperature?
I just go into the nVidia temp monitor in Properties > Settings > Advanced > "videocard name" > Temperature > ...there it is! lol It may have been added when I put the Coolbits thing in the registry... but Im pretty sure it was there when I installed the drivers and the card.
My GeForce3s GPU way around 68'c idle and 80'c Under load (i.e. Gaming). Seems rather high, but this was as is at stock in a 24'c case..... Became about 8'c cooler after my modding, but still rather hot.
Geeky1: Did you know that your laptops GPU fan turns on when it changes into 3D mode, the small fan turns on at 50'c, big fan turns on at 70'c and it automatically shuts off at 80'c?
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited December 2003
Enervex, I know all about the laptop's cooling setup. I also know that:
1- There is no GPU fan. The small fan near the battery cools the PCMCIA slot or something near it; the GPU is at the back of the computer, between the CPU, the LAN/modem ports, and the optical drive
2- All 3 fans turn on at once; low speed is at 50*c, high is (presumably) 70*C
3- The highest temp. my laptop has ever reached (running F@H, on a desk, with no extra cooling) is 56*C. Normal idle is 37-39*C. My laptop runs significantly cooler than most of these things do, because it's been modified; the heatsink and the CPU are lapped flat to +/- 0.0001" using 0.25 micron lapping film, and the thermal pad has been replaced with a very thin layer of Arctic Silver Ceramique.
Anyhow, I don't like ANYTHING in a computer running much over 50*C; I know that video cards generally run hotter than that (manufacturers use the smallest heatsink that they can that will allow the card to function in a normal computer; even my old Rage 128 would top 50*C with the stock heatsink), and I don't like it. Which is why all of my video cards have much larger than stock heatsinks. The hottest-running one of the bunch is the Radeon 9000, which has a ZM80A-HP with no fan, and is in a case with as little ventillation as is practical to keep the P3/Celeron Tualatin in it happy. The Radeon 9000 stays <105*F under full load. My Radeon 8500 runs ~90*F, because the stupid RAID card is too close for the fan to have unrestricted airflow, and the 9700 runs at no more than 5*F above room temperature.
1- There is no GPU fan. The small fan near the battery cools the PCMCIA slot or something near it; the GPU is at the back of the computer, between the CPU, the LAN/modem ports, and the optical drive
I know that, I always end up calling it the GPU fan though for some stupid reason, as it always seems to turn on when I start games rather than any other time.
The second fan is 70'c as I did testing with the person that modified the BIOS and made a temperature monitoring program.
Ignore the fact I keep calling it the second fan too, it's supposed to be first and second setting, not fan, but still...
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Here is the latest... 450/900, cpu 2.8Ghz
btw... my aperture size is 256... I have mine doubled :P
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1794674
Setting it to 256 will have a positive effect on benchmark scores then? I've always set it to half of the card's ram on cards with over 128mb, if they have less I just went 1-1 with the cards vram.
I was running my 3000+ at 11X 200 at stock voltages 40 C
and vid card was stock too.
Not if it's a Thunderbird!
But for anything else (and if it's not in a laptop) anything over 60'c is bad.
I don't know why you guys think they run hot... the 1.4GHz Tbird puts out less heat than a 2100+ Palomino, or any 3GHz+ P4. I had one for almost a year; under full load, it never exceeded 45*C. EVER. They're not exactly difficult to cool, guys.
Regardless, 68*C is insanely hot. My guess is that you need a case fan upgrade; even the OEM P4 heatsinks are good enough that it shouldn't get that hot.
When I first built my Intel (System 1) box, I was using the OEM aluminum P4 heatsink. Running overclocked at around 3400 MHz with two instances of folding in the background, indicated temperature was around 70-72*C. There were no stability problems whatsoever. Right now, at full bore with an SLK 900U heatsink and Mechatronics 53cfm fan, the system is at 49*C (about 53*C in summer).
Oh, uh -- maybe my previous post is out of order for the context of this thread. OK then, what video cards have software monitoring available. Other than an add-on probe, how do you monitor a GPU's temperature?
EDIT: This is in relation to the first page of this thread
Thrax, ummm...does increasing the apperature size increase benchmarks in your experience?
Geeky1: Did you know that your laptops GPU fan turns on when it changes into 3D mode, the small fan turns on at 50'c, big fan turns on at 70'c and it automatically shuts off at 80'c?
1- There is no GPU fan. The small fan near the battery cools the PCMCIA slot or something near it; the GPU is at the back of the computer, between the CPU, the LAN/modem ports, and the optical drive
2- All 3 fans turn on at once; low speed is at 50*c, high is (presumably) 70*C
3- The highest temp. my laptop has ever reached (running F@H, on a desk, with no extra cooling) is 56*C. Normal idle is 37-39*C. My laptop runs significantly cooler than most of these things do, because it's been modified; the heatsink and the CPU are lapped flat to +/- 0.0001" using 0.25 micron lapping film, and the thermal pad has been replaced with a very thin layer of Arctic Silver Ceramique.
Anyhow, I don't like ANYTHING in a computer running much over 50*C; I know that video cards generally run hotter than that (manufacturers use the smallest heatsink that they can that will allow the card to function in a normal computer; even my old Rage 128 would top 50*C with the stock heatsink), and I don't like it. Which is why all of my video cards have much larger than stock heatsinks. The hottest-running one of the bunch is the Radeon 9000, which has a ZM80A-HP with no fan, and is in a case with as little ventillation as is practical to keep the P3/Celeron Tualatin in it happy. The Radeon 9000 stays <105*F under full load. My Radeon 8500 runs ~90*F, because the stupid RAID card is too close for the fan to have unrestricted airflow, and the 9700 runs at no more than 5*F above room temperature.
I know that, I always end up calling it the GPU fan though for some stupid reason, as it always seems to turn on when I start games rather than any other time.
The second fan is 70'c as I did testing with the person that modified the BIOS and made a temperature monitoring program.
Ignore the fact I keep calling it the second fan too, it's supposed to be first and second setting, not fan, but still...