Was gonna say something like that myself.. I too am a bit confused. Have no trouble with anyone who doesn't like consoles (there are so many reasons not too) just not sure why you don't?
i think i may have left something out. what i mean by an 8 year old can use it, is that an 8 year old can be very skilled with it. while this is possible for any game, what im trying to say is that it takes very little time and/or previous skill to become a master of the game. this may have been because of my past experiences. i play alot of computer 1st person shooters, which is probably the reason to my bias anyway, and i bought COD4. i joined and immediatly found myself in a map the size of a football field with 54 other players running around. i chucked a couple nades, and within 30 seconds of spawning i was dead. i have other stories that involve console games like SOCOM, but i dont think it's neccesary to go into those as you probably understand me. i think that running out in the open, bunny hopping, hip firing an m16 and nading people over walls while running is not skill, in a sense of intelligence. then again, i play battlefield 2, which is totally different, so its just my opinion.
edit: since call of duty 4 was based exactly off the xbox 360 version except with more players, i compare it to the xbox version.
I get it. It totally depends on the game, in that case. In games like COD4, you learn to be a little more tactical (and if you were playing Shipment, you never stood a chance anyway, so don't base the game off that map), and other games, like Halo 3 for me, you just stop playing. Stuff like Gears of War or Army of Two, though, definitely use tactics and not just jumping and grenade spam. Believe me, those reasons are exactly why I sold back Halo 3 after I beat the campaign about 5 times (a week after it came out).
But don't base your opinion on the whole console subgroup just because some games get you mad. Just don't buy it, or play with your friends that you know won't do those specific behaviors, and then move on to better-designed games.
i dont know. maybe its just me and the games, like you said. if you are in to first person shooters, i suggest playing battlefield 2 for the pc, but try a mod called Project Reality. i have never seen something so realistic. maps that take up to an hour on foot to cross. tanks that only crewman can operate. squad leaders and members cooperatively talking to their squad through VOIP, and people actually following commander orders. i didnt discover it until recently, and i wish i had found it sooner.
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not trying to be hostile. just my say on the matter. i actually barely read through the thread, and just got done with it.
Somebody's conflicted, and I don't understand what your actual issue is with them. Any better way to explain it?
edit: since call of duty 4 was based exactly off the xbox 360 version except with more players, i compare it to the xbox version.
But don't base your opinion on the whole console subgroup just because some games get you mad. Just don't buy it, or play with your friends that you know won't do those specific behaviors, and then move on to better-designed games.