Monitor - Good or no?

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  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2003
    As far as I can tell, the Compaq P1100 has the USB base, 0.24ag Trinitron Tube and supports up to 1920x1440 @ 75Hz.

    The Compaq P1110 (3 1's) doesn't have the USB base, only supports up to 1800x1440 @ 75 Hz, but still has the same 0.24ag Trinitron Tube.

    Not sure with the Dell's though as I can't find any info on the Dell P1100, only the Dell P1110 (no USB, 1800x1440 @ 75 Hz, 0.24ag Trinitron Tube). :D

    HP & Gateway make an identical monitor too (the HP P1110 and GateWay P1110). This has gone too far :D
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Is there any other monitor as good that can be had around the same price? No, actually ignore that, wouldn't work internationally anyway.

    Is 21" too big though, i.e. do you have to keep looking around it like a cinema screen?

    NS
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2003
    NightShade737 had this to say
    Is 21" too big though, i.e. do you have to keep looking around it like a cinema screen?

    NS
    No! I have a Nokia 445Xi which is a 21" monitor. Having that much real estate might take a little getting used to, but once you've used a large monitor for a while you'll never want to go back. At 1600X1200 you can see ALL of two open windows at an equivalent resolution of 800X600 with no scrolling.

    Might cut down on your solitaire score a little... :D
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    My dad held off from buying a 21" for YEARS because he thought he would have to look around the screen, as in, physically turning his head.

    Once I finally convinced him that that was wrong, and we got the money, we went for it. I was right, and he was pleasantly surprised at the difference having 21" of real estate made, surprised at the difference having 1600x1200 native made.

    21" monitors don't require you to look around the screen and focus any more than a 17" or 19" does.

    It's great.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2003
    Thrax had this to say
    My dad held off from buying a 21" for YEARS because he thought he would have to look around the screen, as in, physically turning his head.

    Once I finally convinced him that that was wrong, and we got the money, we went for it. I was right, and he was pleasantly surprised at the difference having 21" of real estate made, surprised at the difference having 1600x1200 native made.

    21" monitors don't require you to look around the screen and focus any more than a 17" or 19" does.

    It's great.

    My dad always thought the same thing. "I don't want to have to move my head around to see the entire screen." Instead, he resisted moving from a 14" monitor to a 17".

    Finally, when he picked up the 17" because the ol' Radiation King 14" died (finally), he was surprised that just because the CRT is larger, doesn't mean you'll have to move your head around like you do when sitting in the front row of a movie. :D

    21" is no different. You may have to sit back a few extra inches to encompass the whole thing (which is good, as I wouldn't want to be sitting too close to it in the first place), but you don't have to move your neck to see everything.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Hmm.... so do I buy that P1110.....

    It's basically that, or a £180 19" monitor. Is it worth £250?
    (Currently I only get to use 1600x1200 on my monitor (15") and I would need to get even a decent 19" to get that, which is quite sad).
    NS
  • edited December 2003
    NightShade737 had this to say
    Hmm.... so do I buy that P1110.....

    It's basically that, or a £180 19" monitor. Is it worth £250?
    (Currently I only get to use 1600x1200 on my monitor (15") and I would need to get even a decent 19" to get that, which is quite sad).
    NS

    OMG, you mean your using a 15" monitor? BLEHG!


    I remember when going from 15" to 19", it felt like using the computer on a high deff. movie screen compaired to the 15"er... I can't imagie what it would be like going from 15" to 21".

    But I do know you're gona love it!
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Ah, that was supposed to say "Currently I only get to use 1600x1200 on my laptop (15.1" UXGA)"

    NS
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2003
    1600x1200 on a 15"?

    OMG your poor eyes.

    I thought running 1024x768 on my old Radiation King 14" was bad.

    It's a toss up. I chose the 21" because I wanted maximum CRT size, a Trinitron AG tube and minimum 1600x1200 ability (don't care about refresh rate). Also, the price was a factor, but not so much as features.

    If you have the cash, go for the 21". You won't regret it :D

    I don't think I would consider a 19" for my every-day use now that I'm used to working with a 21". Even using another PC with a 17" CRT makes my eyes cringe.
  • profdlpprofdlp The Holy City Of Westlake, Ohio
    edited December 2003
    When I go from my 21" monitor to my dad's 19" I feel deprived. When I use my daughter's 17" monitor I feel downright abused.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    I just ordered the Dell P1110 from Merkortech. For $280 with shipping, I couldn't pass it up.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Order placed for the Dell P1110 FD. Next day delivery, so I'll probably get it Tuesday..... just hope I can fit it through the entrance to my room....

    NS
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Arrived today, there is a hairline crack for about an Inch and a half stemming from the top left of the screen just past the Trinitron Logo, but it isn't that noticable (sometimes).....

    It cost £250 including delivery and they are offering a £15 refund to cover the damage (as they said they sometimes get through the inspections without being noticed, but it is in an obvious place and quite noticable if you are looking for a crack...).

    What do you think?

    NS
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited December 2003
    On the actual CRT or just the casing?

    Have you powered up the monitor yet?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Casing.

    Not powered up yet, he said to leave it 6 hours first....

    NS
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Right, managed to hoist the monitor into the attic via rope, industrial strengh ribbon, and 3 people....

    I plugged it in, turned it on, and it just sits there flashing a yellow light......

    So I left it for about 5 mins, turned it on again... this time the light was green for about 30 seconds, then went to a fixed yellow..... so I switched to input no 2 to check, and it went back to the flashing yellow, so I switched back and it carried on flashing....

    Is there anything I should know about this monitor? As I'm not sure why the light is flashing and does it need to be left plugged in but turned off for some length of time before use?

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    Asuming the monitor is plugged into the PC correctly, and your not getting any OSD message of any kind displaying, I'd say it's dead.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Fan ****ing tastic. My parents are going to hit the roof. My dad almost broke his back trying to get this thing up the ladder....

    Not sure how I could even GET it back down.........

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    If you have a window, tie a good rope to it, and lower it to the ground.

    At least you can exchange it for a working one.

    You can do that, right?
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    I'm in the Attic. The window is a very bumpy way down as it would have to roll down the roof first.

    I'm tempted to just sit it in the corner and leave it there and take my £250 loss, as the hassle from my parents will be unbareable and really not what I need at this point in time. Though I am really just going to give up on PC's shortly as none of the stuff I ever buy will just ****ing work. Jesus christ.

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    Jeez, makes me wish I mentioned that I tested my monitor upstairs, before my dad and I lugged it into the basment.

    Offer some friends some nice cold Bud (or pizza rolls, whatever) in excange for helping you get it back downstairs.

    You could try lowering it down the ladder using a simple pully system too. Might come in handy for other things in the future, as well.

    £250 is a lot to eat like that. I'd return it in a heartbeat.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Well I got my Dell P1110 today from Merkortech. Damn thing is bloody FLAWLESS.

    The screen is perfect, I can't find any scuffs on it, and it's very clear and works well. Aaaah, cheap 21" goodness. I love it.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    None of my mates would be interested in helping, firstly it's not their style, and secondly, none of them live even remotely near me.

    Pully system would be nice, but I have no idea on how to set one up.....

    Really should have tested it before hand....

    ****

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    Thrax had this to say
    Well I got my Dell P1110 today from Merkortech. Damn thing is bloody FLAWLESS.

    The screen is perfect, I can't find any scuffs on it, and it's very clear and works well. Aaaah, cheap 21" goodness. I love it.


    Isn't it great? Makes me never want to buy a brand new monitor again.
    NightShade737 had this to say
    None of my mates would be interested in helping, firstly it's not their style, and secondly, none of them live even remotely near me.

    Pully system would be nice, but I have no idea on how to set one up.....

    Really should have tested it before hand....
    ****
    NS

    Take some pics of the ladder area from both top-down, and from the side.

    I've done this before, so I could give you a couple ideas.
  • edited December 2003
    Here's a ghettofied MSPaint drawing of the pics I'd need.


    EDITED FOR CLARITY
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    Problem is, the current ladder thing isn't permanent.... but I dont know if or when anything else will be done...

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    Doesant matter if it's perminant, what matters is the position of the hole in the floor/celing and the ladder that's there now.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    There is a large Window covering 80% of the space directly above the hatch/hole which I think pretty much removes any chance of attatching anything to the roof....

    I also dont think it would be strong enough anyway....

    NS
  • edited December 2003
    2x4s placed on either side over the hole (temporarily) would solve that problem.


    These monitors are more bulky than they are heavy, so isn't that big of an issue.
  • EnverexEnverex Worcester, UK Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    No, really it is heavy, I could barely actually pick it up, never mind anything else... (70.5lbs)

    But yeah, not sure if my parents would let me start attaching things too the roof. They are very iffy about looks of the house, i.e. they wont let me half close the front curtain when its sunny so you can actually see the TV because "it looks messy from outside" :(

    NS
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