OK, City of Friends @CB and Babylon @CrazyJoe need to start producing some bigger navies ASAP. Suddenly they're swarming the left coast of our continent in their boats, and I can't patrol both shores with my navy. I'm actually having to pull back some of my navy to defend my shores.
Yeah agreed, we need non-stop ship production from coastal cities. My big land army is going to be outdated by time I land it if I don't get an escort soon. Currently I have my guys sitting on their thumbs south of @Basil. Each time I send a unit out to test the waters it is killed by an enemy ship.
Guys plx rescue city of friends. @NiGHTS if you are still in this game you have ranged land units to send down there. @CrazyJoe you have boats that need to go down there as quickly as possible even if it means they end up dying. @CB you have enough gold to buy a boat as well. I'm sending a canon over. @GHoosdum you can send your boats over to Best Korea and sack some trade routes for delicious gold.
Everyone who has spare gold after boat buys, please send it to @CB. I sent all of mine. CB you can use it to buy not just a boat, but every defensive building you can. If we all do these things right away we have a chance, otherwise City of Friends will be City of Ded.
Next turn I start mining coal for us. Yay factories.
I could use some naval help over by Babylon bay. There are a ton of ships outside the harbor. It's a tight spot, so I'm holding them off the best I can, but could definitely use some help. Ranged land units would be good too, especially Artillery.
So it's pretty much crap that we have zero land based oil on our continent. There is some oil in Babylon Bay, but it'll be awhile before we can get at it.
I got it. I've been planning on the great oil heist since oil was uncovered on the map. Saved a general for it, and will have the second general I need in a moment thanks to a cultural policy. Will have it in about 4-5 turns, and you can laugh at how far south my land will extend to get it. Yay citadels. Also, trying to send you coal, gold, and canons. Maybe you noticed the 3 canons I plopped on your coasts? That's all I can do really. I'm happy to gift them to you for your control, but I kept them under mine because of your gpt situation.
In the mean time, @GHoosdum you also need to ask me for coal. I don't know how much you need. But we need to ironclad up on both coasts. IMO all you should be doing is making ironclads. Joe just got more of his own coal and I feel his limiting factor is not coal, but production. Once your navy is up to par we need to pick a target and send in the full force. I can provide some land units hopefully, but they would be 8-10 turns out from an assault. Good landing spot would be our city state ally in their land so I can heal.
You have the advantage in attrition because their base is far away, all we need to do is kill 1 of their ships per turn and we can open your bay up.Hopefully it is possible with some ranged units and 1 or 2 ironclads. I'd also keep in mind you should get a admiral soon. If you can end a turn with a full health ironclad in that gap thanks to healing then I think we can turn it around. Bombers will help, but we have to wait on my oil. If they send a ship down south to where my oil island is we are in a heap of poo.
If you don't start attacking, @CrazyJoe, we are not going to get any more oil than your 4 and that is once we have refrigeration (40 turns away!). They know about oil island and will kill it perhaps before it even starts if I don't get naval support.
PLEASE start iron clad spamming and move your units. I swear if you are building anything other than an ironclad on your next turn I'm going to ragequit this game.
@Gargoyle we have a long standing AI in this game thanks to @NiGHTS . Would you be interested in taking its place? This is an all war game against some other GMR randos. We are getting wiped up right now as we lost @CB and the AI has been borderline moronic for ~50 turns, but we could have a chance.
I originally thought I cba (past tense) to invite you to this, but then I thought about losing as an alternative. We need you. This is our darkest hour.
I don't think we have an AI. The one spot showing at AI is the spot I abandoned after I lost. When that happened (like 10 turns ago now?), I took over from the NiGHTS-AI entity, though it didn't leave me with much to work with, so I'm mostly in a holding pattern. Sorry if I've been continuing its borderline moronic behavior? I'm okay if the team wants to replace me.
WELP. Let me clear the air, I have not actually looked at what you have been doing for however many turns because I just assumed you were AI. Then peace was made when Joe took his recent turn, and I assumed it was your AI character that did it. I'm sorry @CB!!!! I don't want you to leave. I'm also sorry to @Gargoyle , this seats taken!
Well now that I know we are all humans I'm confused as to why peace was made, I guess the other team has an AI? I can also look at your city and jab strategy on my next turn as I'm generally not hiding my opinion on what everyone else should be doing.
It's okay. I'm not really a war-type player. I probably am screwing it up, since my first instinct is always MORE CULTURE AND SCIENCE, rather than MORE GUNS! I'm probably building a fucking Museum or something right now.
Anytime a human misses a turn, there is a chance that the AI who takes it will try for peace. That's why we didn't have a timer on this game for awhile, but that resulted in like 3 turns per month...
@CB said:
It's okay. I'm not really a war-type player. I probably am screwing it up, since my first instinct is always MORE CULTURE AND SCIENCE, rather than MORE GUNS! I'm probably building a fucking Museum or something right now.
Honestly if memory serves correctly you have a lot of guns. My gut tells me you need to delete some units and up your GPT for a while, then upgrade your muskets to rifles. Culture and science would be great. Any of us that can not build a navy shouldn't have more than a rough minimum number of units for barbarians or initial fight on a land invasion.
Again, I haven't even looked at what you have been doing. Just assumed AI and therefore derp. I am sure you are making fine decisions and for the record I enjoy how you play CIV more than any other player.
K not sure if my opinion is good, BUT, @CB I looked at your situation now. @CrazyJoe is now building a bank out of fear of low gpt. CB, you have nearly 30 GPT.
Joe: if you can, please return to ironclad spam and ask CB for 20GPT. If you need more later you can take your citizens out of production focus and put one or two on gold tiles (assuming you are in production focus as is).
CB: If you keep your units on the shores like that they will just fire on them with their navy and get free XP/Admirals. I'd put them inward and out of enemy range.
CB: If you can, build a trade route and send production to Joe. We need 1 ironclad per turn here.
@Basil : same thing if you can send production to Rob. Meanwhile if you have nothing else to do I would start on artillery for Rob and your shores as the enemy navy will be here momentarily.
@GHoosdum : your navy is toast, save your admiral and frigates if possible. Production focus citizens and use workers to build mines on those hills. we need 1 ironclad per turn.
Me: GG is in the water bordering an enemy city state. If it survives, we will have oil in 2 turns and maybe we get out of this mess. Will have hong kong back on our payroll in 2 turns and a great scientist to uncover yum yum yummy submarines for us.
Godspeed. team xeno. Everything I say with a grain of salt and your own knowledge of your situation.
Yeah, it's tough. Based upon what is possible when Icrontians team up, I thought for sure we'd have this one in the bag, but it seems that I am incorrect so far.
In one of my recon loops of my sub, I noted a Polish fleet headed toward our continent. I saw a sub and two Battleships. I'm a little cash poor but if you guys could spare some gold, I can upgrade my fleet of ironclads and privateer to Destroyers to help counter the threat. I think I need around 450 gold total.
I'll see what I can do on my turn. I finished up the Enlightenment Tree that gave us our free tech to get destroyers. Will help with the subs that are out there. I'm popping out a new sub every turn or two so my harbor fleet is about ready to go on the offensive.
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OK, City of Friends @CB and Babylon @CrazyJoe need to start producing some bigger navies ASAP. Suddenly they're swarming the left coast of our continent in their boats, and I can't patrol both shores with my navy. I'm actually having to pull back some of my navy to defend my shores.
Yeah agreed, we need non-stop ship production from coastal cities. My big land army is going to be outdated by time I land it if I don't get an escort soon. Currently I have my guys sitting on their thumbs south of @Basil. Each time I send a unit out to test the waters it is killed by an enemy ship.
Can the inland folks spare any coin to allow the coastal folks to purchase a round of ships immediately?
wilco
Done. I'll start pumping out privateers from now on. Also, I'm assuming we're keeping Venice as the host of the World Congress?
Guys plx rescue city of friends. @NiGHTS if you are still in this game you have ranged land units to send down there. @CrazyJoe you have boats that need to go down there as quickly as possible even if it means they end up dying. @CB you have enough gold to buy a boat as well. I'm sending a canon over. @GHoosdum you can send your boats over to Best Korea and sack some trade routes for delicious gold.
Everyone who has spare gold after boat buys, please send it to @CB. I sent all of mine. CB you can use it to buy not just a boat, but every defensive building you can. If we all do these things right away we have a chance, otherwise City of Friends will be City of Ded.
Next turn I start mining coal for us. Yay factories.
On it.
Surprise attack! I had a pretty good perimeter of privateers.
@NiGHTS are you still playing? I see 14 skips by your user ID.
I could use some naval help over by Babylon bay. There are a ton of ships outside the harbor. It's a tight spot, so I'm holding them off the best I can, but could definitely use some help. Ranged land units would be good too, especially Artillery.
So it's pretty much crap that we have zero land based oil on our continent. There is some oil in Babylon Bay, but it'll be awhile before we can get at it.
I got it. I've been planning on the great oil heist since oil was uncovered on the map. Saved a general for it, and will have the second general I need in a moment thanks to a cultural policy. Will have it in about 4-5 turns, and you can laugh at how far south my land will extend to get it. Yay citadels. Also, trying to send you coal, gold, and canons. Maybe you noticed the 3 canons I plopped on your coasts? That's all I can do really. I'm happy to gift them to you for your control, but I kept them under mine because of your gpt situation.
In the mean time, @GHoosdum you also need to ask me for coal. I don't know how much you need. But we need to ironclad up on both coasts. IMO all you should be doing is making ironclads. Joe just got more of his own coal and I feel his limiting factor is not coal, but production. Once your navy is up to par we need to pick a target and send in the full force. I can provide some land units hopefully, but they would be 8-10 turns out from an assault. Good landing spot would be our city state ally in their land so I can heal.
I can make an Ironclad every turn, my limiting factor right now is no place to put them at the moment.
You have the advantage in attrition because their base is far away, all we need to do is kill 1 of their ships per turn and we can open your bay up.Hopefully it is possible with some ranged units and 1 or 2 ironclads. I'd also keep in mind you should get a admiral soon. If you can end a turn with a full health ironclad in that gap thanks to healing then I think we can turn it around. Bombers will help, but we have to wait on my oil. If they send a ship down south to where my oil island is we are in a heap of poo.
If you don't start attacking, @CrazyJoe, we are not going to get any more oil than your 4 and that is once we have refrigeration (40 turns away!). They know about oil island and will kill it perhaps before it even starts if I don't get naval support.
PLEASE start iron clad spamming and move your units. I swear if you are building anything other than an ironclad on your next turn I'm going to ragequit this game.
@Gargoyle we have a long standing AI in this game thanks to @NiGHTS . Would you be interested in taking its place? This is an all war game against some other GMR randos. We are getting wiped up right now as we lost @CB and the AI has been borderline moronic for ~50 turns, but we could have a chance.
Sure, but I probably can't play any turns until Saturday. Conference this week is keeping really busy through then.
@GHoosdum can you send garg an invite? I think you are host of the game now.
http://multiplayerrobot.com/Game#9385
I originally thought I cba (past tense) to invite you to this, but then I thought about losing as an alternative. We need you. This is our darkest hour.
I don't think we have an AI. The one spot showing at AI is the spot I abandoned after I lost. When that happened (like 10 turns ago now?), I took over from the NiGHTS-AI entity, though it didn't leave me with much to work with, so I'm mostly in a holding pattern. Sorry if I've been continuing its borderline moronic behavior? I'm okay if the team wants to replace me.
WELP. Let me clear the air, I have not actually looked at what you have been doing for however many turns because I just assumed you were AI. Then peace was made when Joe took his recent turn, and I assumed it was your AI character that did it. I'm sorry @CB!!!! I don't want you to leave. I'm also sorry to @Gargoyle , this seats taken!
Well now that I know we are all humans I'm confused as to why peace was made, I guess the other team has an AI? I can also look at your city and jab strategy on my next turn as I'm generally not hiding my opinion on what everyone else should be doing.
GOD I'M A JERK.
Sorry again for my mistake.
It's okay. I'm not really a war-type player. I probably am screwing it up, since my first instinct is always MORE CULTURE AND SCIENCE, rather than MORE GUNS! I'm probably building a fucking Museum or something right now.
Anytime a human misses a turn, there is a chance that the AI who takes it will try for peace. That's why we didn't have a timer on this game for awhile, but that resulted in like 3 turns per month...
Noted for the permanent record
Also that you're converting to Canadian one sohrry at a time.
Honestly if memory serves correctly you have a lot of guns. My gut tells me you need to delete some units and up your GPT for a while, then upgrade your muskets to rifles. Culture and science would be great. Any of us that can not build a navy shouldn't have more than a rough minimum number of units for barbarians or initial fight on a land invasion.
Again, I haven't even looked at what you have been doing. Just assumed AI and therefore derp. I am sure you are making fine decisions and for the record I enjoy how you play CIV more than any other player.
Sohrry.
K not sure if my opinion is good, BUT, @CB I looked at your situation now. @CrazyJoe is now building a bank out of fear of low gpt. CB, you have nearly 30 GPT.
Joe: if you can, please return to ironclad spam and ask CB for 20GPT. If you need more later you can take your citizens out of production focus and put one or two on gold tiles (assuming you are in production focus as is).
CB: If you keep your units on the shores like that they will just fire on them with their navy and get free XP/Admirals. I'd put them inward and out of enemy range.
CB: If you can, build a trade route and send production to Joe. We need 1 ironclad per turn here.
@Basil : same thing if you can send production to Rob. Meanwhile if you have nothing else to do I would start on artillery for Rob and your shores as the enemy navy will be here momentarily.
@GHoosdum : your navy is toast, save your admiral and frigates if possible. Production focus citizens and use workers to build mines on those hills. we need 1 ironclad per turn.
Me: GG is in the water bordering an enemy city state. If it survives, we will have oil in 2 turns and maybe we get out of this mess. Will have hong kong back on our payroll in 2 turns and a great scientist to uncover yum yum yummy submarines for us.
Godspeed. team xeno. Everything I say with a grain of salt and your own knowledge of your situation.
Good luck everyone! Sounds like a tough game, but always fun to have IC on one team. I'd join in another one of these in the future.
Yeah, it's tough. Based upon what is possible when Icrontians team up, I thought for sure we'd have this one in the bag, but it seems that I am incorrect so far.
In one of my recon loops of my sub, I noted a Polish fleet headed toward our continent. I saw a sub and two Battleships. I'm a little cash poor but if you guys could spare some gold, I can upgrade my fleet of ironclads and privateer to Destroyers to help counter the threat. I think I need around 450 gold total.
I'll see what I can do on my turn. I finished up the Enlightenment Tree that gave us our free tech to get destroyers. Will help with the subs that are out there. I'm popping out a new sub every turn or two so my harbor fleet is about ready to go on the offensive.
Looks like @Basil resigned. We'll miss you, my friend.
@Gargoyle still interested? If so I can send an invite.
I just sank a carrier with four planes on it off my Eastern coast and a few more wooden boats. That'll put a dent in their navy.