building comp for my friend let me know what you think
aspire-comptech
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im building a custom system for one of my friends. here are the specs
AMD socket 939 3000+
1 stick of samsung 512 m
Graphics card tbd
ABIT an8 pci-e
80 gig hitachi sata 7200 rpm
Silver raidmax case
copper cpu fan tbd
total cost $650 let me know what you think i should change.
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AMD socket 939 3000+
1 stick of samsung 512 m
Graphics card tbd
ABIT an8 pci-e
80 gig hitachi sata 7200 rpm
Silver raidmax case
copper cpu fan tbd
total cost $650 let me know what you think i should change.
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And what power supply are you using?
4 in front of hard drives
2 in back
2 on side
goin to use one from fry's 450w 37 with 37 rebate
same as what im using
http://images10.newegg.com/productimage/11-156-019-10.JPG
That case takes 5-6 80mm fans; 2 in the side, 3 or 4 in the front (good luck getting the 4th one in there).
The front 4 fans won't accomplish much of anything because the fan grills are restrictive as all hell and there's not any kind of ventillation holes in the front bezel to let air in; they'll be recirculating air more than anything else.
So that leaves you with 2 80mm intake fans. And no exhaust fans. And the intake fans aren't even properly positioned for any kind of airflow.
Conclusion: the case sucks.
What BRAND is the "450w" PS? Wattage ratings mean very little with power supplies. I've seen "550w" PSes die under a load of 300w. If it's not made by one of a handful of companies, it's not worth its weight in shit. It might still power that system, but you're still running a much higher risk of it dying and taking everything in the system with it than you would be with a halfway decent PS. I'd be more comfortable with a 350w Antec than most 450w PSes.
Also, using 1 stick of RAM completely defeats the purpose of going with S939. If you're not planning on extreme overclocking for this RAM i'd pick up two sticks of this stuff... http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=20-146-219&depa=0
dirt cheap, better timings than anything else around that price, easily as reliable as the samsung, and it has a lifetime warranty.
512MB stick for $55.67= WOW. And Cas Latency: 2.5-4-4!
My OCZ high perf pc3200 ram has Cas Latency: 2-3-3-6.
the power supply is athena power is is currently powering my
1.8ghz P-4
eVGA fx5600 ultra
two hdd
two optical drives
5 case fans
set of dual ccfl lights
with no problems
2 fans in the psu (exhaust)
Ideas would still be greatly appreciated
aspire.comptech, what's the budget for the whole system? And is the stuff in your first post the only stuff that the budget is for?
a. cpu socket 939
b. motherboard
c. Hard Drive 80gig
d. PSU
e. Case
f. Video Card
g. ram dual sticks of 256 good or dual sticks of 512
h. cpu fan
PSU thats good and cheap
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-104-968&depa=1
I'll see what I come up with for $650.
Plus my family isnt the most technically endowed
ANTEC Solution Series Super Mid Tower Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK3700AMB" - Retail
Item# N82E16811129122
$59.99
2x KINGWIN 120mm Double Ball Bearing Case Fan, Model "F-012BB-4Pin" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16811999965
$6.49 x2 =$12.98
Spire Fan Blower 70mm Case Fan, Model "FD07015B1M3" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16835166017
$2.99
Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, MODEL 6Y080M0, OEM Drive Only
Item# N82E16822144318
$69.75
2x Mushkin 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - Retail
Item# N82E16820146219
$55.67 x2 =$111.34
ECS NVIDIA nForce4 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU, Model "NFORCE4-A939 (1.0)" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16813135177
$76.50
AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor - Retail
Item# N82E16819103501
$152.00
MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "NX6600-TD128E" -RETAIL
Item# N82E16814127146
$124.00
Product total: $609.55
Shipping & Handling: $ 38.33
Total (Before tax): $647.88
dont like the case though
You know, I don't really like it all that much either... to get enough cooling into it for me to be happy enough with the temps I was getting with an XP2500+ and a 9700 Pro to overclock it, I had to put 2 80mm blowhole fans in the top and 2 120mm fans in the side panel. But it's the best case you're gonna find for $60 or less, and it's the ONLY case for $60 or less with a power supply that you should be using.
That AthenaPower PS you were going to use goes for $40 on newegg. There is no such thing as a $40 450w PS. I'll repeat that just in case someone didn't get it the first time: There is no such thing as a $40 450w PS. That's a 300w PS with a 450w sticker.
And I really, honestly, truly don't care if it powers your system just fine. Your system is drawing maybe 200w under full load, if that. ANY power supply on the market, generic or otherwise, that's rated for at least 300w should handle that system without a problem.
The fact that it runs your system means nothing. If you had a system that pulled a significant amount of power, say a dual Athlon, Opteron, or P4 Xeon system, with a video card that's at least as power hungry as a 9700 Pro, and at least 3 or 4 7200rpm hard drives (or better yet, 3 or 4 10k or 15k scsis)... AND the power supply had been running the system reliably for at least a year... THEN you might have a valid point. But if you're just running a single cpu system with a single video card and only a few hard drives, especially if it's an older system like yours, the fact that it runs your system means nothing.
Furthermore, using a cheap power supply is being penny wise at the expense of being dollar foolish. It's not looking at the big picture. So you save $25 on a power supply. And then, 6 months or a year down the road (maybe later, maybe sooner), your cheapass POS generic power supply decides to call it quits. AND it decides to take everything else in the system with it. The end result is that you're now out $600 because you were a tightwad and decided to save $25 on a power supply. This is not a good idea.
Your friend should really go with a S754 system (if it's significantly cheaper... I don't know that it is anymore) or maybe a Socket A system. He may even want to consider one of the Prescott-based Celerons, which are supposed to perform much better than the Prescott P4s and overclock well. Getting a S939 system is all well and good, but with $650 to spend, the best graphics card he's gonna get is that 6600 I put in, unless he goes down to 512MB of RAM. And the 6600 isn't really very fast. AND, going to 512MB of memory and a 6600GT will hamstring games like Doom 3 and HL2 which really need at least 1GB of system memory. Basically, he's being unrealistic in wanting a s939 system for $650, unless he's willing to make some sacrifices with regard to its gaming power.
-drasnor
AMD Athlon MP 2400+ 2GHz Processor Retail $146
Gigabyte GA-7N400S-L nForce2 Ultra 400 Athlon(XP)/Duron Skt462 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail $66
Asus N6600/TD GeForce 6600 AGP 8X 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out & DVI Retail $145
GeIL GE1GB3200BDC 1GB Kit DDR400 PC3200 Dual Channel Value Series Memory Retail $115
AeroCool Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With Side window & jet, Model "AEROENGINE-C SS" $72
Seagate 80 GB Barracuda 7200RPM SATA with NCQ Hard Drive, Model ST380817AS, OEM $70
Cables $20
Fans and Lights $15
Total: about $650 with shipping
http://www.newegg.com/app/Listproduct.asp?submit=property&catalog=343&propertycodevalue=4181,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&minprice=&maxprice=&mfrcode=0&DEPA=0&description=&srchFor=mobile
This is the ONLY Socket A board to buy if you're overclocking. No, it's not under $70. It's $82. And don't confuse it with the NF7-S2 or anything else. This is the ONLY ONE that's worth anything.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=13-127-166&depa=0
I still think (in fact, I know) you're being real stupid about that power supply. But hey, whatever.
As for the RAM... it doesn't really matter at that price point. The Geil might overclock a bit better, you'd have to check. But unless you're dropping $100+ for each 512mb for a new stick, you're not going to get seriously overclockable RAM anyhow. And the other thing is the NF2 runs dual channel RAM, so you don't need to overclock it in synch with the FSB.
im sorry but this is COMPLETELY untrue. there are many boards out there that overclock just as good as a NF7-S2 WITHOUT mods. unless your some huge fanboy you can't deny that there are other boards that perform just as good as an NF7-S2 with mods.