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Ducky DK9008G2 Pro review. Is this mechanical keyboard Nirvana?

Ducky DK9008G2 Pro review. Is this mechanical keyboard Nirvana?

Ducky DK9008G2 Pro review

Ask ten people about their keyboard preferences and you’re likely to get thirteen different answers. And unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ve probably seen a dearth of manufacturers now offering mechanical keyboards—Thermaltake, MSI, Rosewill, the list continues on. For someone like me, who types for a living, this input device matters even more than the mouse.

Your super-short mechanical keyboard primer

When it comes to “mechanical” there’s only three different types these days. The oldest, and sturdiest, is the venerable IBM Buckling Spring design used in the Model M and continued to this day by Unicomp—the classic “clicky keyboard” of yore and the one us older folks remember. That’s also the only way you can get buckling spring.

Then there’s “Alps”—in quotes because they were once made by Alps Electronics. These days, they’re made almost exactly the same with some improvements and known as “Fuhua” or “Fukka”—manufactured by Forward Electronics. Some iconic keyboards you might remember that used Alps include the SGI Granite, the Dell AT101, and a number of Apple keyboards. If it’s a clicky Apple or Dell keyboard, it’s using Alps switches.

The most common you’ll encounter—and the one we’re covering here—is the Cherry MX switch. Cherry is offered in a variety of flavors from linear (MX Black, MX Red and MX Dark Grey) to tactile (MX Brown and MX Clear) and clicky (MX Blue, MX Green and MX White) and sold by the millions. This is what you’ll find on most keyboards advertised as mechanical. You’ll find them in everything from the Tt eSports family to Das Keyboard to CM Storm to Rosewill to Ducky.

The most important thing you need to know about any keyboard switch is what kind of switch it is—even before you get to the manufacturer. Linear switches have smooth travel throughout the keystroke with no feedback whatsoever. Tactile switches have some form of silent feedback, usually as a bump at or past the activation point. Clicky switches have both tactile feedback you can feel, and audible feedback—guaranteed to drive coworkers crazy in an open office environment!

Who and what is Ducky? I’ve never heard of them!

Mechanical keyboards aren’t just big, they’re absolutely huge in Asia. Ducky Channel is a Taiwanese company which, as the name might imply, started off as a channel supplier—selling high quality computer and electronic components to retailers. In 2008, they decided to take it a step further and go into manufacturing high quality keyboards—and they haven’t looked back since. Some of their innovations include bringing fully backlit mechanical keyboards, configurable backlighting, and semi-configurable controllers to mass production.

Ducky Channel at Computex 2012

The Ducky Channel booth at Computex 2012

You won’t find Ducky at your average computer store, though. My Duckys come from their US distributor, MechanicalKeyboards.com—and that’s the only place in the US to get a Ducky. They are most decidedly not on the low side of the cost spectrum, either. There are more expensive ones out there—South Korea has a large custom designing community, and their keyboards routinely cost more than $300 before shipping to the US—but at $144, the DK9008G2 Pro PBT is one of the most expensive of Ducky’s entire catalog right now, and of course more expensive than most normal people are used to paying for keyboards at all.

Features? It’s a keyboard! Keyboards don’t have features, do they?

Items included in Ducky Pro box
They do! There’s more layouts out there than you can shake a stick at—from “60%” to Ten-Keyless (no number pad) to the various 105 key full-size layouts. The DK9008G2 Pro is a full size, 109 key layout with Windows keys. As I mentioned, Ducky played a big part in bringing configurable controllers to the market and the DK9008G2 Pro is no exception here. Four DIP switches on the bottom allow you to swap the position of Left Control and Caps Lock, disable the Windows key, swap the position of Alt and the Windows key, and enable N-Key Rollover for USB.

The box doesn’t just contain the keyboard either. It comes with a very simple manual which explains the DIP switch settings, a high quality USB cable with a nice Ducky branded Velcro keeper, a set of WASD keycaps (we’re about to get to that), and a high quality wire keycap puller. One of the big things about mechanical keyboards is the ability to switch around your keycaps, either to change the layout or just give it a completely different look (or even feel.) It’s really a very well thought out package, and I found the wire keycap puller easier to use than the “ring” style.

The DK9008G2 Pro also features partial backlighting on the WASD cluster, being primarily targeted at gamers, and includes a high quality wire keycap puller and a set of four backlight compatible WASD keys in red. Performing the swap takes less than five minutes. Lock indicators use the same idea, using clear windows in the keycaps to make the LEDs indicating status visible.

Ducky Pro WASD backlit cluster

“109 keys? There’s four more?” Indeed there is. Above the number pad, Ducky added four fixed function keys which open your calculator, ‘My Computer’, your email client and your web browser. On the surface, they don’t seem too terribly handy. Then, I realized that they don’t just open whatever the application is—if it’s open, they directly switch you to that application. Hooray, now I don’t have 13 copies of CALC.EXE open and I’m not guessing where I put Thunderbird!

Also very important to me was Media Functions. It’s a personal preference, one that Ducky meets reasonably well. I won’t deny preferring the layout that Thermaltake used on the Meka G1—it was brilliantly thought out and very natural to the fingers. Ducky has media function keys—volume controls, play, stop, next and previous tracks—but the layout is awkward. They’re located on the F1-F7 keys, but the Function Layer key is located on the right side of the keyboard, so switching tracks means both hands on the keyboard.

Arguably the coolest feature of the DK9008G2 Pro is the fact that it has dye-sublimated PBT keycaps. Most keyboards use ABS plastic for keycaps, which is then lasered to create the letters. It’s cheap and plentiful—and wears out very quickly. PBT is extremely resistant to wearing—just look at the keys on a 25 year old IBM Model M to see how resistant. Dye-sublimation means that the printing on the keys is actually embedded deep into the plastic, so even if you wear some of the surface off, you’ll still have a readable legend. And there’s no question—these are some of the thickest PBT keycaps ever made. They have a lot of weight and heft to them, and just the right friction so your fingers don’t go flying everywhere at 135WPM+.

Aren’t there any downsides?

There very much are. First and foremost: this is a weighty keyboard. It is physically heavy—weighing in at just over 3lbs. Between the heavy-duty plastic frame, the steel plate used to secure the switch mounting, and the very thick PBT keycaps, it is not a keyboard you want to be hauling around with you every day. However, this also ensures it stays well put on your desk—which is where it is right at home.

Second, there’s the media key layout. If you use these regularly, you will quickly learn to hate it, unfortunately—and there’s no way to fix it. Even my extremely long fingers can’t just hit ‘next track’ with one hand—and even if I could, I’d have to take my hand off the mouse. It’s really quite disappointing in that regard, enough that I find myself often not using them because of how difficult it is.

Ducky DK9008G2 Pro review media key layout

The Fn key is all the way over there on the far right.

The detachable USB cable is a mixed bag—the new version is improved from the old ones, but the routing channels still require severe 90 degree bends. Connecting it at the underside of the keyboard is still rather difficult in the best of circumstances. Still, the cable itself is very high quality and comes with a Ducky branded Velcro strap for making it neat, but you definitely do not want to be unplugging it at the keyboard side often.

So should I go out and buy one?

This is where keyboards get into the realm of the subjective. My personal choice was for the Ducky DK9008G2 Pro with MX Greens—rated at 80cN actuation force, they’re the hardest Cherry MX switch to press and the closest to a buckling spring in feeling (disclaimer: I’ve been using buckling spring since 1991 and own a number of rare ones. I’m biased here!),  but they also offer it with quite literally every other Cherry MX switch there is—even the extremely rare Dark Greys!

If you’re looking for one of the highest quality mechanical keyboards out there right now, then absolutely you should buy a Ducky. I’ve already logged somewhere north of 75,000 words on mine and it still looks like it just came out of the box (the convenient dust cover in the box helps there).

Which model? That’s entirely up to you and dependent on your preferences. If you want clicky switches, you can’t go wrong with Blue—and it’s cheaper than Green. If you prefer tactile, everyone I know loves MX Browns. If you want linear, well, it’s entirely up to you—just don’t buy into the “MX Reds best for gaming!” hype. Go with what is most comfortable for you.

Will it last you? This is one of the most durable keyboards I’ve seen in a long time—and I don’t exactly have a small sample size or use my keyboards infrequently. Is it worth the premium price tag of over $120 (depending on switch choice)? High quality mechanical keyboards start at around $90 to $100 as is—and PBT keycap sets sold separately are usually $50 and up. Combining one of the highest quality mechanical keyboards with some of the best looking and feeling keycaps I’ve ever seen most definitely makes the DK9008G2 Pro worth every penny.

The DK9008G2 Pro is available direct from MechanicalKeyboards.com from $120 and up. And a big thank you to @DracoSphynx  for providing the review samples!

Comments

  1. oni_dels
    oni_dels so, only WASD is backlit? can you change the color of the light or?
  2. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm That's correct - only the WASD cluster. The actual keys are MUCH sharper than the image shows, and it's pretty darn bright too. You can't change the color of the backlighting; getting an RGB LED into a Cherry MX switch assembly is anything but cheap.
    If you're looking for a full backlit keyboard with different colors though, the Ducky Shine III is due any day now. It's basically the same keyboard with different keycaps (ABS - it's not possible to do backlighting with PBT) and full backlighting in a huge variety of colors and switches.

    Not gonna lie, if I was gonna go backlit, I'd go Shine III in Green/Green.
  3. drasnor
    drasnor I keep meaning to get a Unicomp. It's only $70 and actually has my favorite switch technology. But then, I'm typing this message on a Model-M13 and it's like "eh, I already own the best keyboard ever made."
  4. Lonny Paul MechanicalKeyboards.com is NOT a part of TigerDirect. (I am a TigerDirect employee).
  5. Debbra As a Newcomer, I'm always searching on the internet for articles that can assist myself. Cheers!
  6. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    I keep meaning to get a Unicomp. It's only $70 and actually has my favorite switch technology. But then, I'm typing this message on a Model-M13 and it's like "eh, I already own the best keyboard ever made."
    Well, couldn't have for months anyways - they depleted their stock in preparation for the new 103 models they released last week, along with a significant price drop. (Ultra Classic was $99, now $79. OTB/Trackball was $149 now $105.) Honestly though, I own an OTB ('04) and an M5-2 ('92 IIRC?) and the Unicomp is much lower quality in every regard. The trackball optical sensors are much lower resolution and the build quality is much lower.
    Same holds true for the EnduraPro (formerly OTS) - which is NOTHING like the M13. It's based on a hacked up - as in hacksaw modified - M2 chassis. The button action compared to the real deal is horrible due to bad hinging design and low quality feedback buttons, and it's based on the TrackPoint original and not the TrackPoint II. Granted, my M13's are all pristine examples in mint or perfectly restored condition (and one of them was converted to TrackPoint II), but still.
  7. primesuspect
    primesuspect
    MechanicalKeyboards.com is NOT a part of TigerDirect. (I am a TigerDirect employee).
    Thanks for the feedback, Lonny. I'll make the edit :)
  8. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    MechanicalKeyboards.com is NOT a part of TigerDirect. (I am a TigerDirect employee).
    Thanks for the feedback, Lonny. I'll make the edit :)
    Oh, whoops, I didn't see that myself! MechanicalKeyboards is part of the Tiger Imports family. Easy mistake to make! (So if you place your order, don't freak out when the FedEx shipping notification says TIGERIMPORTS.NET.)
  9. primesuspect
    primesuspect I picked myself up a Ducky Channel Zero ZK2108S tonight.

    I love it.
  10. Straight_Man
    Straight_Man Um, Brian, they make a DK2108 series, did you mean DK?

    I ordered a clicky DK2108 (Blue Cherry MX switches). Need one for the new system build I have been talking about some.
  11. midga
    midga I'd really like to get a chance to try my fingers on all the different Cherry MX switches. I've held off bothering until now because I have no real sense of what the difference is.
  12. mertesn
    mertesn I have mechanical keyboards with blue, black, and brown switches. So far brown seems best suited for gaming. I still want to try red and clear.

    Edit:
    (stats are taken from Overclock.net's awesome forum post on the subject)
    The black switches provide smooth travel for the entire press which is nice, but the 60-80g force for activation is quite heavy and (for me) doesn't feel all that great for gaming - too much resistance for fast keystrokes. Regular typing feels fine though.

    Blue switches are somewhat lighter at 50-60g and it does make a difference. They're comfortable for just about any environment except where quiet is required. I find the hard tactile feedback to be a bit of a distraction while gaming, but this may be due to lack of sufficient hours to become accustomed to the feel.

    Brown switches are the lightest of the three at 45-55g. I can't tell much of a difference in the force required between these and the blues. The tactile response is subtle and quiet - I'd say the best of both worlds. I've logged several hours with my ROCCAT Ryos MK Pro now and it's taken over as my absolute favorite keyboard.
  13. drasnor
    drasnor My sister is in the market but it's nearly impossible to get a compact mechanical keyboard; they're all out-of-stock! What gives?
  14. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm If you want to see a good MX Black board in action, I have a Tt Meka G1 I may fix up. Garbage keycaps ruined it more than anything else. Would prefer to convert to MX greens or blues but don't have the money. Otherwise okay build quality (serious debounce problems resulting in double keystrokes at >140wpm), but the best layout ever created. If I could get the Meka G1 layout on a DK9008G2, that would basically be perfection.

    As to keyboards being out of stock - no, they're most definitely not. Just gotta know where to look. Can't recommend MK enough.
  15. drasnor
    drasnor Sorry, I should've been more specific. My sister is an MX Blue lady and the available options are lacking.
  16. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    Sorry, I should've been more specific. My sister is an MX Blue lady and the available options are lacking.
    How about Blues in Yellow?

    The DK2087 Zero is available in Blues, as is the Keycool 87 though if you're looking for something a little less flashy and obsessive-collector oriented. The 2087 is the TKL version of what prime has, and Keycool's entire line has consistently gotten high marks from everyone.
    She might also be interested in the Matias (Alps-clone) keyboards. The whites are clicky a la Blues, with a slightly different feel and a quieter noise level overall.
  17. drasnor
    drasnor I saw the DK2087 Zero but the click-through link is for the reds; I wasn't able to find it in blue. She was not a fan of the yellow (either the unmarked yellow or backlit yellow).
  18. ardichoke
    ardichoke I kind of want to get a Shine 3 DK9008, but I want brown switches. The Ducky Channel site says they make them with browns but I can't find them anywhere I've looked.
  19. RootWyrm
    RootWyrm
    I saw the DK2087 Zero but the click-through link is for the reds; I wasn't able to find it in blue. She was not a fan of the yellow (either the unmarked yellow or backlit yellow).
    Indeed it is, which is quite odd. Since, as you can see here, it's listed as MX Blue. May be a listing error.

    The Keycool 87 might fit the bill though. It's (obviously) less bare-bones than the Zero and pretty highly praised. (Personally, I'm not a huge fan because it's wire stabilized. The Keycool 108's use Cherry stabilizers.) Also available in white if you don't mind a wait.
    I kind of want to get a Shine 3 DK9008, but I want brown switches. The Ducky Channel site says they make them with browns but I can't find them anywhere I've looked.
    Oh, you mean these?
    Pick a color, any color.

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