AMD Says It Can Still Beat Intel Cores with Opterons

30 Mar, 2006 at 9:57am ET Article published in Tech

According to IT Jngle AMD expects it upcoming “Rev F” Opterons to maintain its performance lead over Intel’s Core family of CPUs for servers.

“Rev F” Opterons will feature Registered DDR2 support and a new socket, “Socket F” a 1207 pin LGA (Land Grid Array) similar to Intels Socket T a 775 pin LGA CPU socket. Socket F is also designed to support AMD’s 65nm “Rev G” core Opterons, which will feature Quad Cores, HyperTransport 3.0 and L3 Cache.

Article: IT Jungle: AMD Says It Can Still Beat Intel Cores with Opterons

What the Rev F machines do have is a new socket, called the Socket F….The Socket F is designed to be used for the next generation of multi-core Opterons, which are due in 2007 and which will use a 65 nanometer process.
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To get to quad-core processors, AMD will be moving to a 65 nanometer process in 2007, which will include a totally revamped Operton core, code-named “Deerhound” apparently and presumably also known as Rev G. These Rev G chips make jump from HyperTransport 1.0 to the HyperTransport 3.0 interconnect (hey, what happened to HyperTransport 2.0?), and a new architecture that incorporates L3 cache. (The rumor is that it will be a few megabytes of cache, and it will be on the die, not in the package alongside the die.)

Source: IT Jungle

Comments

30 Mar 2006 ~ 11:41am primesuspect csimon, mudd, lemonlime..... we'd better start saving up now ....
30 Mar 2006 ~ 2:57pm Enverex Starting to care less and less about AMD. Originally they were the underdog with better products, now they are doing exactly what Intel is doing. Prices are roughly the same, core slot-type now changes every year or so, Intel's performance it nearing the same, etc.
30 Mar 2006 ~ 6:03pm Vicar At the end of the day it's all about money, money, money. lets increase the profit margins.
30 Mar 2006 ~ 6:37pm airbornflght I have noticed amd increasing there prices, but i suppose it had to happen at one point.
30 Mar 2006 ~ 8:25pm quad optys = excellent!

but yeah---where's the cheap amd dual core to compete with the intel pd 805 for roughly $150...

amd why don't you do something like this?

amd x2 3600+, 1.8ghz, 512L2 x 2 = $250
amd x2 3400+, 1.6ghz, 512L2 x 2 = $200
amd x2 3200+, 1.4ghz. 512L2 x 2 = $150

they would sell like hotcakes.
30 Mar 2006 ~ 8:46pm Omega65 It's Supply and Demand!

Intel 805 = Overstocked Inventory of 8xx chips = Low prices

AMD X2 = SOLD OUT = High Prices
30 Mar 2006 ~ 10:41pm airbornflght which is why i would like to do a intel dual core system right now, but my money is going elsewhere
31 Mar 2006 ~ 12:15am Leonardo For bang, go AMD! For bang for the buck - at least for now, go Intel.
31 Mar 2006 ~ 5:16pm airbornflght Im actually kind of moving to a dual core pentium D 805 system now, not the flashiest chip out, but I've been wanting to give/build my younger brother a computer for his room for a while now, and my a64 2800 would be perfect for him, especially with my 6800GT.

I think the dual core 805 would give a noticable boost over my current system, not to mention at a 15% overclock i would get 3.06 GHz x 2 , pretty sure that would definately trump my 754 system. but i only have one monitor, so im trying to work it out with my parents that if i go and give him my computer and get him all set up, then they buy me a 19" widescreen lcd monitor...nice. looking at the viewsonic, which has 1.2 million pixels, not the 2 million pixes of hd, but it has more pixels than most "hd" tv's on the market and according to my calculations, the difference in quality would only be a ~34% increase in picture.

this may also be a good excuse to get the nice d-link 16 port switch I've had my eye on, note: what do the different layers in a switch mean, im sure it has something to do with management, the d-link i want is a layer 2 switch.
2 Apr 2006 ~ 3:55pm Omega65

Leonardo wrote:

For bang, go AMD! For bang for the buck - at least for now, go Intel.

I hate to agree with you....But I do
2 Apr 2006 ~ 7:56pm Leonardo

not to mention at a 15% overclock i would get 3.06 GHz x 2

With a quality motherboard and good cooling, an overclock to 3.2 - 3.4 ought to be pretty easy. Overclockers seem to be quite pleased with the 805.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 8:26am airbornflght well, the high performance side of me has triumphed over the gotta save money part, and ive decided to get a 920. should be nice, 65nm process that the ee is based on, dual 2mb cache and a faster 800mhz fsb. and if what im reading is correct some people have boosted it to around 3.5-3.8 ghz and a 1066mhz fsb, i though intel locked the fsb and left the multiplier open? or have i been away from intel so long i dont know? now i have to go find me some good ddr2 ram. mobos right now for the pentium d's are only supporting ddr2 667, right? cause id like to stick some ddr2 800 in there.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 11:07am Leonardo Nope, the multipliers are locked and FSB is adjustable. The 920 will run cooler than the 820s that I run. You are correct, in that the 9xx series are Pressler core, 65nm process. It's still a hot running CPU. Make sure you have good cooling if you plan overclocking.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 4:54pm airbornflght im gonna get a big typhon, as many people on here and newegg say they are worth their weight in gold (almost).

if i get to 3.4 id be happy, but 3.6 or 3.7? i may jump up and down, run around my adition singing joy to the world if i get that high of an oc. do you still im a bit foggy as far as the intel oc'ing goes, but with a 2.8 gig processor and an 800mhz fsb, i am only getting a 3.5x multiplier, is that right?

going on that, if i bump the fsb up to an even 1ghz, id get 3.5ghz and if i take it all the way to 1077mhz, then i get a 3.76ghz. is this correct? a 3.5x multiplier seems low coming from amd land.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 5:54pm Leonardo The mulitplier is 14. Default setting for the D920 is 2800MHz - mulitplier 14 X 200 FSB. "Quad pumped" FSB is 800MHz.

If you already have a spare 120mm fan, you can save some money on your CPU heatsink purchase and get a Scythe Ninja. They perform just as well as the Big Typhoons. In case you haven't seen it, take a look at my top tier heatsinks comparison thread, TT Big Tyhpoon vs. Zalman CNPS 9500 vs. Scythe Ninja.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 6:04pm airbornflght okay, quad pumped, i got you. cool.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 6:10pm Leonardo Here's the way it works:

FSB from the CPU is DDR, double data rate, so that's nominal FSB X 2. Dual channel pushes the signal through two channels, so that's DDR X 2, for a theoretical "quad" pumping. No, it is not four times as fast, but it is nevertheless a technological improvement over the old basic FSB. With Intel systems, this is a motherboard-CPU process, with the motherboard providing the dual channel function. With a newer AMD CPU, the memory bus boost is accomplished on the CPU itself - Hyper Transport, which is much more efficient than processing through the motherboard.
3 Apr 2006 ~ 8:02pm CB I just want to add that when I saw the title to this thread, I involuntarily visualised an AMD representative with a sock full of Opterons, menacingly approaching an Intel Core...