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Asetek Vapochill LS

Asetek Vapochill LS

Starting up the Vapochill LS: First Impressions

Once I held the power button for one second and released, I heard what sounded exactly like an air conditioner starting up. It had that characteristic raspy buzzing sound of a refrigerator or AC compressor. Within a few seconds the noise settled to a dull buzz that was still quite audible, but not nearly as loud. By default the fans spin at 75%, and are not terribly noisy. The Vapochill LS is not quiet, so I can pretty much guarantee that anyone looking for a silent PC will not be pleased with the unit’s noise levels. I have a slightly higher noise tolerance, so I was really not bothered much by the noise. It was a pleasant surprise to discover that after several days of use, the compressor noise was actually further reduced as the unit ‘broke in’ a bit. I wouldn’t consider it ‘roaring’ loud, like some high CFM ‘Tornado’ fans, but rather a different type of dull ‘compressor’ whine noise. After a while, your ears adjust and you easily tune it out.

For some more technical ‘noise level’ specifications, Asetek put together some thorough documentation.

Within several seconds of starting up the unit, the evaporator temperature starts to drop rapidly. It dropped from 26’C to about -10’C in 30 seconds or so. As soon as -10’C was hit on the evaporator, the PC came to life and started to boot normally. I was relieved to hear the post beep on the first boot up, and immediately went into the BIOS. Before I knew it, the evaporator was sitting happily at about -46’C and it did not take long for it to finally stabilize at -53’C while the PC was sitting idle in the BIOS. I saw my CPU temperature reported as -16’C according to the BIOS.

I expected lower CPU temperatures with the evaporator at -53C, but when I trolled around some cooling forums, I came to the conclusion that these system sensors were never calibrated for sub-zero accuracy, and they are likely off by quite a large margin. Without a high quality digital thermometer, it is difficult to determine exactly what the true CPU temperature is. I did not let this discourage me, as I was fairly certain that I had excellent contact between the evaporator and the CPU. I set everything to optimized defaults for my first boot.

Upon booting into Windows, everything appeared perfectly stable, and there were no signs of the ‘cold bug’ that plagued many of the Winchester and some of the Venice/San Diego based chips. This is certainly not a flaw on AMD’s behalf as sub-zero cooling is clearly not within the ‘operating temperature’ range. There is still a lot of mystery surrounding the cause of the cold bug, but it causes all sorts of odd instability at temperatures below 0’C. Many of the revision ‘E’ chips will never have any issues with a device like the ‘LS’ and may only exhibit problems under more extreme cooling methods.

Motherboard Monitor 5 gave me a different temperature reading than the BIOS, and was reporting about -24’C at idle and about -18’C at load. The evaporator temperature increases by about 10’C at load, which is an indication of good contact between the chip and the evaporator head. The evaporator is clearly ‘pumping’ away the excess heat at load.

I had to fight the urge to begin overclocking right off the bat and get the chill control panel software installed.


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Comments

  1. Sledgehammer70
    Sledgehammer70 This is awesome info! I don't think I have seen a better write -up for this product. Great images, nice detail I give you 150% on this one!

    Also I have been looking into the LS for a few days now. I was thinking fo Watercooling for about $400 but I was liek why not go all the way for an extra $400 I mean if youare getting 3.3Ghz on a Opt. what do you think the FX-57 would score? It is all in the aire, but something I am looking into.
  2. Medlock
    Medlock Excellent review, Lemonlime! :thumbsup:
  3. paroxym
    paroxym Lemonlime: You are :leet::ninja:

    As leet as you are though you might want to spell Asetek correctly :aol:

    :bigggrin:
  4. primesuspect
    primesuspect :eek: wow paroxym, thanks for catching that. I'm editing it right now :(
  5. Shorty
    Shorty
    :eek: wow paroxym, thanks for catching that. I'm editing it right now :(
    He sent me an email asking me to do that, Im just about to edit but if you are.. Il wait! :)
  6. primesuspect
  7. lemonlime
    lemonlime
    paroxym wrote:
    As leet as you are though you might want to spell Asetek correctly

    Pfft, the truly hardcore do not waste their time spelling things correctly. I've got benchmarks to run my friend.. :ninja::D
    Done :)

    Thanks for fixing that prime :)
  8. Winga
    Winga Lemonlime - I, like many others followed your trials and tribulations in the forums when you were putting together your now infamous build. All I can say is "Hats off" buddy :respect::respect::respect:

    Not only did you do a superb job of it, but you left a documented legacy for us all to share. And of course make us all green with envy. :bigggrin:
  9. lemonlime
    lemonlime
    This is awesome info! I don't think I have seen a better write -up for this product. Great images, nice detail I give you 150% on this one! ... I mean if youare getting 3.3Ghz on a Opt. what do you think the FX-57 would score?

    Thanks for the comments Sledge! :cheers:

    My Opteron isn't even a terribly strong stepping stepping either :). AMD really puts some love into their flagship FX series chips. 3.3-3.4GHz should be no problem if you are willing to crank up the vcore a bit. I think the best CABNE stepping FX chips can do about 3.5. It's rare to see anything higher than that though without a more extreme cooling solution (definitely not anything 24/7 like the LS). Some of them have the cold bug, so I would look up your chip's production week just to be sure.
    Winga wrote:
    Lemonlime - I, like many others followed your trials and tribulations in the forums when you were putting together your now infamous build. All I can say is "Hats off" buddy

    Not only did you do a superb job of it, but you left a documented legacy for us all to share. And of course make us all green with envy.

    Thanks very much for the kind comments Winga :cheers:
    TheGr81 wrote:
    Excellent review, Lemonlime!

    Thanks dude :cheers:
  10. TheSmJ
    TheSmJ Pretty cool!

    Now how about some pics/specs on that planted tank in the backround...? ;)
  11. Linc
    Linc An excellent read :cool:

    I sure flubbed catching that Asetek spelling though, huh? ;D
  12. profdlp
    profdlp Quite a lot of information and a very nice read. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable article. Well done! :cheers:
  13. lemonlime
    lemonlime
    TheSmJ wrote:
    Pretty cool!

    Now how about some pics/specs on that planted tank in the backround...? ;)

    It's a watercooled 55g long ;) I thought you might notice the tank :D The anubias in the front there were pretty yellow in that picture. Cleaned them up since then. The DIY co2 I'm using now has made a huge difference.
    I sure flubbed catching that Asetek spelling though, huh?

    This is the Chuck Norris of CPU coolers.. I think the vapo was so powerful that it automatically removed every third vowel from the article the last time I saved it. At least thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it ;D
    profdlp wrote:
    Quite a lot of information and a very nice read. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable article. Well done!

    Thanks for the comments prof :cheers:
  14. paroxym
    paroxym
    This is the Chuck Norris of CPU coolers..

    Asetek Vapochills aren't hung like horses, horses are hung like Asetek Vapochills.
    :cheers::p
  15. lemonlime
    lemonlime Time for an 8 month update!

    The 'LS' is still going very strong. Evaporator temp has not swayed at all, and is now cooling my slightly hotter (and cold bug free) 4200+ X2 chip at 3.1GHz without breaking a sweat.

    I have had one encounter with Asetek technical support that I would like to share.

    A couple of months ago, I had an issue where the unit would not fire up every try. I'd hold the power button in as perscribed, and the LCD on the front of the unit would simply go black without starting the compressor. I'd have to unplug the unit and keep trying to get it to successfully start up. Once it did start, it ran like a champ though. I went to support.asetek.com and opened a new ticket. Someone replied very quickly, and offered to replace the chill control board. I explained that the unit was working, and that I'd be without a computer if I had to send the defective one back before receiving a replacement. They had no isses sending the replacement prior to receiving the defective one. This is a rare thing this day and age :) Not only did they send the new one first, it arrived within 3 days from Europe. I swapped the card for the new one, and now everything is 'good as new'.

    Other than that card replacement, I pull out some dust bunnies from the heat exchanger every month, but that is about it :)
  16. profdlp
    profdlp Quite impressive service. :respect:
  17. Nightwolf
    Nightwolf Nice article LL.
  18. Jim Jarmon Have you ever tried this with a dual socket 940 system? I've got a monster that likes to run hot!!

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