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Thermaltake ProWater 850i

Thermaltake ProWater 850i

Installation

We’ll be installing the ProWater 850i in our reference mid-tower case. It is an Antec mid-tower with an internal layout very similar to that of the “Antec Lan Boy”. This is a 120mm intake/exhaust case that should be representative of the some of the more common cases out there.

Thermaltake decided to use a universal backplate with the ProWater 850i. As can be seen below, it looks almost identical to the SilverStone Nitrogon NT-07 backplate. This is definitely not an ideal shape, especially for socket 775 based systems. Many boards have protruding pins from VRM components that interfere with backplates that are not ‘X’ shaped.

Thankfully, Thermaltake provides a generous amount of padding and an insulating layer. Although it did cause issues with the pins on our Asus P5K-E board, the padding was thick enough that they didn’t cause a serious issue. The padding is adhesive at both sides. Don’t remove the backing if you plan to move the kit to another board.

Long threaded posts are then put through the backplate and held in place by brass nuts. Washers insulate the top side of the board. Needle nose pliers make this part of the installation much easier. It is helpful to hold the brass nuts in place while tightening the posts from the back side of the board.

The block is then installed using post caps intended to be tightened by hand. I had no issues tightening three out of the four, but one of them was not threaded properly and was a real pain to get put on. Little quality control issues like this can make a simple installation take much longer than necessary. Aside from that, I found the block installation involving, but very secure. Care must be taken not to over-tighten the block. The board does bend quite a bit without caution.

The next step involved installing the radiator. This was actually very easy to do thanks to the universal bracket. I simply lined up the threaded holes and tightened it down with the included screws. You may be wondering why there is paper towel shoved into the barbs. It appears that Thermaltake leak-tests some of their components. I found a small amount of moisture in the radiator when I removed the barb caps. It wasn’t enough to be a concern, but I am known to be overly careful at times.

As you can see, the holes lined up perfectly on this Antec mid-tower and held the radiator securely in place. Thermaltake does provide the option to mount the radiator externally as well. They include a PCI-bracket with cut outs for the tubing for this purpose. Unless a buyer wants to install the kit in a non-standard type of configuration, it shouldn’t be necessary to install it externally.

Next, I installed the tubing. It cuts fairly easily with a pair of good scissors. The barbed fittings on all of the components are very effective and provide a water tight seal even without the included clamps. It seals so well, that I couldn’t remove the tubing without cutting it. Be sure to measure twice and cut once. I didn’t bother with the anti-kink wrap, as there were no tight bends in this install. I also skipped out on the flow meter so as not to restrict the flow more than necessary. I secured the pump and reservoir using the screws and nuts that Thermaltake provided. The case already had some holes conveniently located for this purpose.

As you can see, there were no sharp angles. Thermaltake provided about three times the amount of tubing that I actually used for this install. This is good news for those who change out cases frequently.

First Impressions

I filled the reservoir to the maximum line and fired up the system. Once the radiator, block and tubing had filled with water, the level returned to about the low marker on the reservoir. Filling it back up to maximum allowed it to run without issue. It only took about five minutes for all of the air to purge from the system. Rocking the case back and forth gently while in operation helped to get the air pockets out of the radiator. I found the pump to be a little noisy for the first five minutes of use and then it fades to almost complete silence. It can not be heard without getting very close to it. Thermaltake’s included fan is pretty loud at full throttle, and barely audible at its lowest setting. The built in rheostat appears to allow for three settings—I am guessing 12V, 7V and 5V. Buyers can tune the unit for maximum performance, or near silence.

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Comments

  1. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Sweet article lemonlime! Well done!
  2. lemonlime
    lemonlime Thanks, Buddy J :)

    Here is a shot of the backplate after I took apart the system. Manufacturers really need to steer clear of this area on LGA775 boards. As I mentioned, the padding was thick enough to protect the board.

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  3. jared
    jared Great review Mike!

    Looks like an awesome kit. I wouldn't mind picking one of these up, but I think you might as well add a GPU cooler in there too...
  4. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ They say it's expandable. The pump pushes quite a bit of water; enough for a GPU cooler and 2x120mm radiator.

    I'd like to see how the new OCZ waterblock stacks up when added to this system. It's only $40.
  5. jared
    jared Which one of their kits is the "step up" from this one.

    Didn't they have one that included some of that stuff mentioned above^^

    (specifically the 2x120mm radiator i thought)
  6. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Right now, the ProWater 850i is their top kit. They sell upgrades individually:
    http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Products.aspx?C=1162

    I can't find it, but there's a review online somewhere I read last week where they added a Thermaltake GPU block and the 2x120mm radiator to the mix and got better results. I guess the ProWater's pump is strong enough to take mild upgrades. The only real downside I see to the kit (aside from lemonlime's remarks) is the small reservoir. I'm not sure if it can be replaced or not.
  7. muddocktor
    muddocktor I see a few things that I find not too desirable with this kit (besides that mounting bracket that Mike noted). First, the radiator is all aluminum and you have to run some kind of antifreeze mix (which I'm sure that the included coolant that Thermaltake provided contains) or you will have corrosion due to ionic transfer between dissimilar metals. And the pump, while adequate, is not a real powerhouse. Finally, I find a single fan radiator, while easier for mounting purposes, is a bit small for overclocking a quad based system. For the price this is selling for ($135 at the Egg), I would rather spend another $5 more and get the Swiftech H20-220 Compact CPU Water Cooling Kit. With the Swiftech kit you get a double fan brass tank and tube radiator, radbox for mounting the radiator externally and a waterpump/waterblock combo based off of the Apogee GT block and MCP350 pump. There's nothing really bad with this Thermaltake kit but it's competing against a superior Swiftech kit in it's price range.
  8. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ The downside of the Swiftech kit is its upgradability, right? You can change the pump top but you're stuck with their block...
  9. muddocktor
    muddocktor Yeah, that is a minor downside, but if you think about it you probably would be changing the block in the future anyways. And the MCP350 pump side of the combo is fully upgradable with an aftermarket top and there is also a very simple solder mod you can do to the MCP350 to convert it to a MCP355 motor (from 10 watt to 18 watt motor) as they are the same motor on the pump. Martin's Liquid Labs has some good pics of the mod area in their review of the Apogee Drive (the pump/waterblock combo that comes with this kit). This mod could also be done on the present setup to get you a little better flowrate and pressure also.
  10. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Yeah, I read about the mods etc. on Martin's site. The MCP350 sounds like a great pump. I'd like to get one myself. Are you saying you can detach the pump from the block on the Swifty kit so you can upgrade to a better block like the GTZ? I was under the impression that if you wanted to move to a better waterblock, you also had to get a new pump.
  11. muddocktor
    muddocktor No, the pump body comes off just like pulling the shipping top of the MCP350 and 355. If you install an XSPC top on the pump body and impeller, the only difference between it and a pump you buy as a pump is the lack of the 2 mounting brackets on the sides of the pump body. The waterblock part of the pump comes off just like the top of the regular pump with 4 screws. Here's a link to Martin's review of the Apogee Drive, which shows him mounting an aftermarket top to the pump body of the Drive. It has a pic of the pump body with an aftermarket top mounted on it. Plus, he shows the solder mod clearly too in the article. That is what is so nice about this kit; your pump isn't obsolete when you decide to upgrade to a better waterblock.:thumbup
  12. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Thanks for clarifying it mudd. The Swiftech kit just became much more appealing.

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