!!! SM19 Is up and kicking !!!

QCHQCH Ancient GuruChicago Area - USA Icrontian
edited September 2003 in Folding@Home
SM19 was setup last night. Started at 7:00 pm and finished around 1:30 am. Why so long... Modded the case a bit more, finished the mod on the power supply from GHoosdum. I found that I couldn't get the PCI Video card to display even when setting the BIOS to display PCI first. I had a AGP video card around here somewhere... but it was a AGP X1 so it wouldn't fit... Ah ha... I have a ATI TNT 64 in my server.... why do I need a nice card like that in a server??? Not any more!!!!

So everything is in.... Hmmm, Time to load an OS. I had another left over piece, a 6 GB HD from a system that just died last week. So XP is in and all the drivers and updates are in... Folding is installed.

Now I'll wait and see how the system handles. In a litle bit, I'll start the OCing.

BTW, SM19 has 160/500.
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  • LincLinc Owner Detroit Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    :rockon::fold:

    Nice work QCH! :thumbsup:
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    The memory actually worked :eek2::)
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    the board i sent actually was fixed by gigabyte! OMG!
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    eexcellent. We may just catch up with team eggroll after all :D
  • dangeraarondangeraaron houston New
    edited September 2003
    sorry it took to long to get the proc off.
    i don't konw what board you have, but from what i remember that chip should get pretty close to 1.6 w/ 1.85v
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Just reread the post:

    ATI TNT?

    Huh? What j00 b33n sm0kin? ;D
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    its a giga-byte GAX-7VAxp if my memory serves me right
  • KwitkoKwitko Sheriff of Banning (Retired) By the thing near the stuff Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    w00t! Another folder in the ranks!
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Um, folding does not need high graphics. Fact is, if you drop the color depth, the BIOS drops the Aperture size needed and the rest of the box has more RAM spare for folding. The Beta next-gen Gromacs WU files ALONE I am working on, uncompress to between 4-5 MB, clients grab another 64 MB between client and core for themselves and workspace, this in a text client in Linux run on virtual console 2 usually (as USER).

    That is why I told mmonnin an older card would be better for a 90% or more pure folding box-- RAM savings alone will let it run better. It should also run 10-40% FASTER if a service client install is done and it does not have to update a screensaver-- if older monitor, simply set BIOS to blank the screen after 15 min of non-use. Service client gives no displays except on demand, then they are in the command console which can be left open, minimized, or closed with the client running once things are stable with the service install.

    On PCI cards, these are fixed at PCI 33\32 adn draw a decent amount of amperage compared to newer cards, so you need to stick them in PCI slot one for best results on most modern boards. PCI slot one is closest to the CPU. If a no-boot, then reset CMOS by clearing it, ENTER CMOS and set the type of monitor to EGA\VGA in standard, then force to 1\2 RAM Frame buffer size and then also select PCI as default. If still no boot, possibel CMOS cell is old or has been reset too many times whihc rapidly drains battery. Reseting will clear these values on modern boards, do CMOS\BIOS setup programming after a reset.

    OLDER boards actually can DEFAULT to PCI.

    Lesson: Treat a pure or mostly folding box as a SERVER in design, single purpose, FOLDING. With all Pentia, turn ON the -advmethods flag, and with P4s leave off the forceasm as the client picks up on assembly different and at least in my box leaving -forceasm OFF both gets me big WU's and also more Gromacs than turning it on AND increases throughput of WUs by 15-25% or more depending on WU. With -forceasm off I get the higher throughput track record resulting in more Gromacs.

    John.

    For gaming, no, but folding need not have or even use high-res or high-color graphics even on Windows.
  • SimGuySimGuy Ottawa, Canada
    edited September 2003
    However, it is nice to have 1024x768 @ 32-bit color graphics on your system simply for purposes of being able to see the display.

    An old 2 MB video card can do that. :)

    WTG on the assembly of SM19!
  • SpinnerSpinner Birmingham, UK
    edited September 2003
    :respect:
  • GnomeWizarddGnomeWizardd Member 4 Life Akron, PA Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    whats the specs?
  • muddocktormuddocktor
    edited September 2003
    Great to hear you have SM19 up and folding, QCH!:D

    WTG, d00d!:)
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Excellent! :fold:

    Now let's see some OC's and some pics. I'm anxious to see what finishing the mods means. ;)
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    So the vid card didnt work?? Ageek that was your card. I assumed it was good when you shipped it to me and I never tested it.

    The HDD didnt work or what? You can load XP on that small of a HDD and 2k would be better anyway. I have a Celeron here that doesnt have a HDD cause I shipped that one 2 you. And it already had 2k and FAH already on it.

    So which CPU do you have? Who did youi get it from. danger you never replied so I asked Thrax to send his. Everything else was in order and I had no reply yet and I wasnt waiting any more.

    I need specs of the new parts since about half of it was changed.

    And why the GUI?? Console is so much better and takes less resources.
  • QCHQCH Ancient Guru Chicago Area - USA Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Correction on the Video... ATI Rage 128 Pro.

    As for the PCI Video issue... I cannot confirm the workability of the card but I do not have much history with the PCI video cards. All I remember is plugging the card in and WhaLa... video. Not so in this case. I am more than happy to use the PCI card but until I can figure out this nice new mother board, I will stick with the ATI Rage.

    BTW, the Gigabyte GA-7VAXP has no jumpers to reset BIOS. I looked and looked. There is a marking that says that 1&2 is normal, 2 & 3 Resets BIOS, but there are no jumpers or switches near there that aren't marked for another purpose. I just removed the battery and left the thing unplugged for a few minutes. The 256 MB of RAM did pose some problems though... I didn't see any indications as to slot requirements so I placed it in the slot nearest to the CPU and nothing but errors. I ran a Mem Checker and GOBS of errors popped up. I switched to the last slot and that worked fine. I disabled everything in the BIOS though. No sound, no ports not SCSI, no Serial ATA... just IDE channel 0.

    The Hard Drive seemed a bit small but when I go Linux, I’ll use it. I was afraid of maxing out the 2 GB. I’ll still use it though. I am still looking into running LINUX instead of Winderrrrs XP but I wanted to get this puppy up and running first. Besides, I had no idea it had anything on the 2 GB HD. I’m from the mind that HD’s contain data that is not mine and that I have no right to go snooping around. I format and do a fresh build. Sorry.


    So… the final assembly of parts is as follows:

    Gigabyte GA-7VAXP ver1.1
    AMD 1400
    ATI 128 Rage
    256 MB of PC2700
    6 GB Western Digital (5400)
    Thermalright SK7 (w/ 80 mm Sunon 50 CFM)
    Custom Gold 400 watt Case
    (2) 80mm case fans
    (1) 50mm case fan?
    (1) 80mm Power Supply fan (mod) plus built in fan


    It’s running in console mode? Pic's are awaiting developing...
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    The rear fan is 60MM. I meant to include a slot blower with it, too, but I just saw the thing sitting in my parts pile. Oops!
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Windows folds fastar than Leenooks, my friend. Stick with winders.

    How on this Green Earth can you fill up a 2gb drive with a fresh windows XP install and a folding client? I have no clue.

    Weird about the memory and the slot thing. That stick was the result of an RMA and I never tested it. It was straight from retailer to me, to you.
  • mmonninmmonnin Centreville, VA
    edited September 2003
    Make sure you turn off all the special junk that XP has or it will take cycles. And I thought it was only like a 1.6GB. O well.

    You might be getting another CPU from Thrax, not sure if he sent it or not.
  • dangeraarondangeraaron houston New
    edited September 2003
    sorry didn't even think about replying. i just got the addy and thought that was that. and it was more than a week till i got to it, sorry again. anyways it all works out in the end.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Card worked in a Barton 2500+ box, and an AMD K6-2 box before being shipped. It was in antistat bag, then in bubblewrap. Enough said.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    Geeky1, the TNT2 M64 has more memory than you said by a lot, the M64 means 64 MB on the full-fledged cards of that sort.
  • Geeky1Geeky1 University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
    edited September 2003
    Huh? I didn't say a thing about the TNT2. Maybe you were thinking of someone else? But that being said, the TNT2 never, ever, EVER had 64MB of memory to my knowledge. 16MB was the norm, I think some had 32, but I know of none that had 64.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    I have had in my hands the cut-down RAM 16,s, 32's and full RAM 64's. The biggest onboard RAM of the bunch used almost zero RAM at 64 MB aperture, the others could grab more.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    -->Prime

    Um, my Linux P4 box outfolds my XP (or 98 SE on another HD on same hardware) Barton 2500+ box, and outfolds XP on my P4 box.

    It also gets more Gromacs Betas, large size ones. They relatively do not get as many points per bench WU day duration as the small ones. Client runs on a virtual console, not in KDE's Konsole. Enough said.
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    No TNT2 had 64 MB of RAM. Ever.

    Stop trying to tell people otherwise. The M64 doesn't mean 64mb of ram. M64 was the MX420 of the TNT2 line.

    TNT2 M64
    TNT2
    TNT2 Pro
    TNT2 Ultra

    From slowest to fastest.
  • BDRBDR
    edited September 2003
    I have a Riva TNT2 M64 running on one of my towers.
    It has 32mb memory.
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    --> Thrax

    I wondered when you would say NEVER and not think about what could be meant by TNT2 M64. For the 64 MB, I was thinking the TNT 64 bit (M64) core s in a ELSA Gloria II (Quadro, which is based tightly on multiple TNT2 M64s internally each using a 32 MB bank of RAM).

    In theory, if there were two Voodoo TNT2 M64 based cards or one Voodoo and one more pedestrian Pixelview TNT2 M64 based card run in a box with SLI in use, one PCI and one AGP, you could run TWO cards, and I deliberately never said "single cards" either-- I said cards.

    In single more pedestrian TNT2 M64 based cards, the upper limit is 32 MB and that is normally SDRAM.

    Never put words in my mouth Thrax, even by implication. PLEASE!

    The TNT2 M64 core was made able to address 64 MB of RAM, in most applications the actual bus was limited to 32 MB RAM. Think that someone might be thinking CORES, or the circuitry rather than marketting hype of names like Ultra, before saying NEVER. The cores themselves were wired to allow 64 MB, and in most computers tuned for gaming when those cards were possible, the drivers and BIOS used 32-64 MB of shared system RAM when working all out as well as the onboard 32 MB. But, I never said "onboard RAM" either.

    John.
  • GHoosdumGHoosdum Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    "Depends on what your definition of is is."
  • ThraxThrax 🐌 Austin, TX Icrontian
    edited September 2003
    --> Ageek

    You may have been waiting for me to say "Never," but I'm still waiting for you to make a post that's both relevant and coherent.
    In theory, if there were two Voodoo TNT2 M64 based cards or one Voodoo and one more pedestrian Pixelview TNT2 M64 based card run in a box with SLI in use, one PCI and one AGP, you could run TWO cards, and I deliberately never said "single cards" either-- I said cards.

    There is no Voodoo TNT2. Perhaps you'll realize Voodoo is 3DFX, and TNT2 is nVidia.

    It was an impossibility to run a Voodoo and TNT2 in the same system. The SLI cable was strictly for use with Voodoo cards, and didn't support AGP/PCI bridging.

    ....Hell. I don't even know WTF you're trying to say. You're covering two companies, three cards, and three technologies in the same statement.

    The lack of periods and commas is disconcerting.
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