Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited October 2003
TheSmJ had this to say Is the only diff between the 947U and the 900A, is that the 947U is a bolt-on?
I suppose that would put less stress on the socket.
The 947 is basicly the same as the 900 but the dimensions were changed so that it could fit more boards since the 900 was fussy due to capacitors and such getting in the way.
Both the SLK-900 and the SLK-947 come in both bolt-on ("U") and clip-on ("A").
Leonardo had this to say Upgrade the CPU heatsink. Right now at SVCompucycle.com, you can get the Thermalright SLK-947U for $31. Deal!
Wow!
Once the "U" series are installed do you need to remove the board from the case to remove the HS or is the plate on the bottom pasted to the bottom of the board? Having to remove the board was why I opted for the 800 at the time because I got tired of all the work involved with my Swifty and Aplha HS's.
from thermalright FAQ on 947U ...
Question 7: Do I remove motherboard each time I upgrade CPU?
Answer: I f you installed the SLK-900 properly in your initial installation ; just make sure the four standoffs are screwed tight, (just like one does when mounting a motherboard to a chassis motherboard tray) then it’s easy to remove heat sink and fan without removing your motherboard when you upgrade the CPU.
It seems that the "A" series is for AMD and the "U" series is a universal type for AMD and/or Intel ...and I only see the 947U as being available.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2003
Correct.
A = AMD (Socket A, Socket 370, Socket 7)
U = Universal (Socket A, Socket 478)
Geeky1 had this to say That DDR won't work, unfortunately. The "2x256mb" means it's a set of 2 matched 256MB modules... which is fine, if you want only 512MB of ram. However, if you get 2 of them, you'll have 4 modules. Which won't work very well, since the the NF7, like most nForce boards, has 3 DIMM slots... if you want 1GB of ram, you'll have to go with 2 512MB sticks.
I may not be understanding what you are saying, but I thought I did post I was getting 2 quanity 512 sticks.
mtgoat had this to say I also recomend getting one of these adapters for 99 cents unless the fan you order has one included because I do not like running big fans off the mobo and this way you still have speed monitoring.
3. You will regret getting cheap memory!!! I would stick to PC3200 or higher with cas 2 even if it means getting 512 instead of 1 GB.
I assume you mean for me to hook up only my processer fan thin way, not every fan in the case.
I thought I was getting quality memory. I thought thats what kingston was, and I am getting pc3200.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2003
Kingson 512mb (2x256mb) DDR400 PC3200, Model KVR400X64C3AK2/512 2 quanity $202.00
That 512MB is a pair of 2 256MB sticks, not 1 512MB stick (hence the 2x256mb...)
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
Yeah, you'll want C3AK2/1GB if you go with that DDR400 Kingston. Personally, I'd get better (read: lower CAS-rating) RAM (and I did). DDR400 is fine, just shoot for CAS2 if you can afford it.
I am not going to post the stuff I did not change.
Thermalright SLK-947-U ( Heatsink ONLY ). All Copper heat spread. Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 1.8 GHz to 3.06 GHz and above. AMD: All Duron, Tbred and Barton 3200+ and above. $37.99
Same Price, great.
What does CAS Latency 2 (2-3-2-6-1T) mean?
I know latency 2 is great, but what is (2-3-2-6-1T)?
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2003
Oh, well in that case, you'll need an Antec TrueControl 550w PS, a Prometia phase change CPU cooling system, and if the budget's blown, you might as well get a bigger case, a nice big RAID array, a DVD burner, etc. while you're at it...
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2003
CAS = Column Address Strobe. No, I do not know what that means. All I know is Lower = Better.
The rest of them are stuff like RAS (Row Address Strobe or something like that, I think) BASS, GAS, MASS, LASS, PASS, (can you tell that I've totally and completely lost it yet? ) etc.
Why must you ask me to think at 1 AM?
What you need is Mackanz or Thrax or Leishi or hell Prime probably knows. But beyond telling you that lower is better, and that CAS is Column Address Strobe, I can't help with this one.
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited October 2003
I won't pretend to mimic Thrax' and Mackanz' knowledge, but I can provide you this excellent page on memory timings.
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Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited October 2003
It looks like you are on track now. I was originally referring to:
As for the adapter I listed, yes it is just for the CPU fan and I personally don't power and case fans from the board at all. The only ones I do are chipset fans.
csimon
Thanks for the reply. I was just used to the mounts for the Swiftech and Alpha coming loose when ever I tried to remove the mounting screws from the standoffs. (grrr)
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited October 2003
I was just used to the mounts for the Swiftech and Alpha coming loose when ever I tried to remove the mounting screws from the standoffs.
Antisieze works great for that. Just don't over applicate, as it is probably very electrically conductive.
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Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
edited October 2003
Leonardo had this to say
I was just used to the mounts for the Swiftech and Alpha coming loose when ever I tried to remove the mounting screws from the standoffs.
Antisieze works great for that. Just don't over applicate, as it is probably very electrically conductive.
I tried superglue but the standoffs still spun around. When that board went so did my mounts. :banghead:
ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W P4 Power Supply ATX12V Retail $127.00
Thermaltake 90X90X25mm FAN, 2 Ball Bearing, 2850+/- 10% RPM, 56CFM Air Flow, with 3pin/4pin adapter. Retail. $5.99
Thermalright SLK-947-U ( Heatsink ONLY ). All Copper heat spread. Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 1.8 GHz to 3.06 GHz and above. AMD: All Duron, Tbred and Barton 3200+ and above. $37.99
ANTEC All Clear PRO 80mm 4 pin Fan for all 80mm Computer Case cooling requirements 3 quanity $12.75
Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM $110.00
KINGSTON HyperX 184-pin 512MB DDR400 (PC3200) DDR RAM modules, Model# KHX3200A/512 2 quanity $250.00
ABIT NF7-S ,nForce2 SPP chipset Support AMD Socket A with 200/266/333 FSB ,8X AGP,SATA 150 ATX motherboard Retail
$112.00
AMD ATHLON XP 2600+ Barton 333MHz FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM $99.00
total with shipping $ 759.73
Primesuspect came into my place of bussiness two days ago and said that my current ide hard drive would bottle neck my whole system, so I tacked on a ata serial. More money.
This computer better be current for the next 10 years. Thanks for your help all.
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Geeky1University of the Pacific (Stockton, CA, USA)
edited October 2003
10 years? I give it 10 days, tops.
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Mt_GoatHead Cheezy KnobPflugerville (north of Austin)Icrontian
I looked on my hard drive and one the label I cannot find the RPM.
It is a W. D. Spartan 102AA
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LeonardoWake up and smell the glaciersEagle River, AlaskaIcrontian
edited October 2003
A Google search revealed the following specifactions for your hard drive "102AA 10.26GB [5400RPM] 2 GMR heads * ". It's a Western Digital, probably manufactured in 1999. Supposedly it's rock solid reliable; but it's a rather slow drive.
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The 947 is basicly the same as the 900 but the dimensions were changed so that it could fit more boards since the 900 was fussy due to capacitors and such getting in the way.
Both the SLK-900 and the SLK-947 come in both bolt-on ("U") and clip-on ("A").
from thermalright FAQ on 947U ...
Question 7: Do I remove motherboard each time I upgrade CPU?
Answer: I f you installed the SLK-900 properly in your initial installation ; just make sure the four standoffs are screwed tight, (just like one does when mounting a motherboard to a chassis motherboard tray) then it’s easy to remove heat sink and fan without removing your motherboard when you upgrade the CPU.
It seems that the "A" series is for AMD and the "U" series is a universal type for AMD and/or Intel ...and I only see the 947U as being available.
A = AMD (Socket A, Socket 370, Socket 7)
U = Universal (Socket A, Socket 478)
I may not be understanding what you are saying, but I thought I did post I was getting 2 quanity 512 sticks.
I assume you mean for me to hook up only my processer fan thin way, not every fan in the case.
I thought I was getting quality memory. I thought thats what kingston was, and I am getting pc3200.
That 512MB is a pair of 2 256MB sticks, not 1 512MB stick (hence the 2x256mb...)
Thermalright SLK-947-U ( Heatsink ONLY ). All Copper heat spread. Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 1.8 GHz to 3.06 GHz and above. AMD: All Duron, Tbred and Barton 3200+ and above. $37.99
Same Price, great.
KINGSTON KVR400X64C25/512 512MB 400MHz DDR PC3200 DIMM RAM CL2.5 2 quanity $230.00
The processer fan does come with a 3 to 4 pin adaptor.
This budget well Blown.
I expect to over clock to 5 gig with this computer.
The new memory is
KINGSTON HyperX 184-pin 512MB DDR400 (PC3200) DDR RAM modules, Model# KHX3200A/512 2 quanity $250.00
What does CAS Latency 2 (2-3-2-6-1T) mean?
I know latency 2 is great, but what is (2-3-2-6-1T)?
The rest of them are stuff like RAS (Row Address Strobe or something like that, I think) BASS, GAS, MASS, LASS, PASS, (can you tell that I've totally and completely lost it yet?
Why must you ask me to think at 1 AM?
What you need is Mackanz or Thrax or Leishi or hell Prime probably knows. But beyond telling you that lower is better, and that CAS is Column Address Strobe, I can't help with this one.
As for the adapter I listed, yes it is just for the CPU fan and I personally don't power and case fans from the board at all. The only ones I do are chipset fans.
csimon
Thanks for the reply. I was just used to the mounts for the Swiftech and Alpha coming loose when ever I tried to remove the mounting screws from the standoffs. (grrr)
Antisieze works great for that. Just don't over applicate, as it is probably very electrically conductive.
ANTEC Performance PLUS Model PLUS1080AMG- with Antec Original TRUE 430W P4 Power Supply ATX12V Retail $127.00
Thermaltake 90X90X25mm FAN, 2 Ball Bearing, 2850+/- 10% RPM, 56CFM Air Flow, with 3pin/4pin adapter. Retail. $5.99
Thermalright SLK-947-U ( Heatsink ONLY ). All Copper heat spread. Intel: Pentium-4 socket-478 1.8 GHz to 3.06 GHz and above. AMD: All Duron, Tbred and Barton 3200+ and above. $37.99
ANTEC All Clear PRO 80mm 4 pin Fan for all 80mm Computer Case cooling requirements 3 quanity $12.75
Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive OEM $110.00
KINGSTON HyperX 184-pin 512MB DDR400 (PC3200) DDR RAM modules, Model# KHX3200A/512 2 quanity $250.00
ABIT NF7-S ,nForce2 SPP chipset Support AMD Socket A with 200/266/333 FSB ,8X AGP,SATA 150 ATX motherboard Retail
$112.00
AMD ATHLON XP 2600+ Barton 333MHz FSB PROCESSOR CPU- OEM $99.00
total with shipping $ 759.73
Primesuspect came into my place of bussiness two days ago and said that my current ide hard drive would bottle neck my whole system, so I tacked on a ata serial. More money.
This computer better be current for the next 10 years. Thanks for your help all.
Ya did well M8!
Bottleneck isn't really the word.... More like a brick wall...
Oh SimGuy I'm sorry but can't resist.......
He's right, theres about a 90% chance that that drive is a 5400RPM drive, which really would suck the preverbial big one.
NS
It is a W. D. Spartan 102AA