KwitkoSheriff of Banning (Retired)By the thing near the stuffIcrontian
edited September 2006
Got it running. Seems much smoother and faster than Beta 2. I couldn't install PC-cillin in Beta 2, it would hang during the scan. Recognized my printer right away. Downloading nForce4 drivers right now so it will recognize my RAID array.
Well, benchmarks are useful but I also mean how does it 'feel'. Is it nippy or does it feel sluggish, smooth and sleek or groggy and slow? (all in comparison to XP I mean). Although the lockdown and DRM extras concern me quite a bit.
Well, benchmarks are useful but I also mean how does it 'feel'. Is it nippy or does it feel sluggish, smooth and sleek or groggy and slow? (all in comparison to XP I mean). Although the lockdown and DRM extras concern me quite a bit.
That's the big thing putting me off too, Ben. I don't care so much that it's an update to Windows XP for the end user, I can get by that as the improvements are pretty and helpful (Although, for $400, I dunno...), but all the integrated DRM really horrifies me.
It feels very well done. It feels extremely "snappy" to me. The only problems I've had so far are bluescreen when the computer is put into sleep mode. I don't normally use power saving options, but I'm putting it through its paces. When the computer goes to sleep, it wakes up to a bluescreen.
Guess I won't be able to test 3DMark in Vista64 since OpenAL won't install correctly. Judging by the performance of HL2 Ep One I doubt the score would be very high anyhow.
According to Paul Thurrott whose Vista blog I have been following to provide ammunition in my "SP3" crusade, the RC1 of Vista can be qualified as this:
OK, there is one caveat. If you try to install an x64 version of Windows Vista, well, God help you. I have no idea what Microsoft was thinking with these products, but after getting over my initial euphoria at how good the hardware support was, I descended quite quickly into software compatibility hell. So unless I mention it explicitly, all the good news here applies solely to standard 32-bit (x86) Vista versions. The x64 stuff is still a nightmare. My guess is that it will always be a nightmare. So unless you have some specific workstation-type needs for more than 4 GB of RAM and very specific applications, please just skip out on x64 Vista versions entirely. There's no happy ending there and your sanity hangs in the balance.
I'm not really too concerned, honestly. Even after all this time spent developing 64Bit, the merits are still up in the air. Nothing has truly (For the end users like us) a quantum leap by doubling the bits, so I'm not really worried.
Well, encoding/encryption and decoding/decryption are boosted massively but other than that everything is pretty much the same apparently so yeah, much ado about nothing. At least on Linux there are only a few apps that don't work on 64bit (most of them being emulators that use 32bit ASM).
I got Vista X86 installed and running last night. So far the only devices I can't seem to get working are my TV tuner card and some components of my soundcard.
The tuner card is Bt878 based and is only supported by user made drivers so I'm not too suprised its drivers are a little slow out the door, and the Audigy 2 ZS itself works, but the firewire and joystick ports don't yet function, which isn't a problem since I have no use for them.
I can't find any nVidia overclocking software capable of working in Vista which is hampering my ability to perform a 1:1 benchmark, but from what I've seen in standard speed things look to be just as fast as XP. I'm curious to see the results others have.
I am getting angry at vista more and more!!! I cannot get my XP install to work... waiting on CHKDSK to run as per Thrax's repair in 8 steps guide, but it ain't looking good. I even unplugged the HDD with XP on it while installing and running VISTA! WTF!? Last time I had to reinstall windows all over again... rrr
Downloaded it 4 nights ago, I think M$ is doing this so that people dont go crazy putting this stuff around the web. Though, I have one question, there really wasnt much of a pause between pre-RC1 and RC1, how many fixes could they have really made?
EDIT: Do you have to have a serial #? it didnt give me one.
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I have yet to figure out how to reboot in WinXP as well, I even unplugged the HDD with XP on it during install. WTF?
Haven't seen one yet... when it does crash though my screen just goes blank.
That's the big thing putting me off too, Ben. I don't care so much that it's an update to Windows XP for the end user, I can get by that as the improvements are pretty and helpful (Although, for $400, I dunno...), but all the integrated DRM really horrifies me.
Beta drivers for power management, I'm assuming.
And if so.....any speed increase?
Later
PS: I missed out on getting it.:(
F@H works on it, the graphical one.. I can't get the console version service installer to work.
Also: HijackThis TOTALLY barfs on Vista
Hopefully RC1 will address those issues, though the ever tightening security at the users end is a bit of a worry.
Shal
Read it: Here
Hopefully they'll get on the stick.
The tuner card is Bt878 based and is only supported by user made drivers so I'm not too suprised its drivers are a little slow out the door, and the Audigy 2 ZS itself works, but the firewire and joystick ports don't yet function, which isn't a problem since I have no use for them.
I can't find any nVidia overclocking software capable of working in Vista which is hampering my ability to perform a 1:1 benchmark, but from what I've seen in standard speed things look to be just as fast as XP. I'm curious to see the results others have.
EDIT: Do you have to have a serial #? it didnt give me one.
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M$? heh.