@Thrax said:
I would imagine it almost certainly affects the bootloader, but I do not know for absolute fact.
This is an AMA, yet you don't know the answer?
Why would you call it an AMA then?
Should there not be some pre-qualification that you might not know the answer?
@GHoosdum said:
I work in the incredibly technologically backward healthcare industry, where many applications are compatible with MSIE 9 at best. In fact, most don't even work with IE 11 in compatibility mode, they're just that bad. Despite the technological backwater, physicians can't resist "free" so I anticipate a lot of free Windows 10 upgrades going on. Can IE 8 and 9 be installed in Windows 10, or is my industry in for a world of application incompatibility pain starting tomorrow?
Compatibility view is one option (which you've stated) but also look into Enterprise mode for Internet Explorer... It's a registry setting that points IE to a master config file that lists how IE should render a particular webpage. (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Dn640687.aspx)
"Anyway, Microsoft has hit Windows 10 installation out of the park. I always keep the tin foil ready and assume they will be buttheads at release but they were not. You can go right to Microsoft.com and get a ISO of Windows 10 - real legit "here it is no tricks" download: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
You can save a ISO, make USB, DVD, etc. No keys - when you upgrade it just does it, if you clean install it asks you for a Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 key. I used an old Windows 7 key, done. I am proud of Redmond."
It's almost like they finally realised that the best thing that ever happened to Windows was how easy it was for everyone to get ahold of 3.x, and that all the stuff they've done since then to curb piracy (and make it tougher for paying customers to do their thing in the process) only hurt their business.
Be sure to run through the privacy settings. There is quite a lot that's shared with Microsoft and/or others by default such as wifi passwords (shared with contacts, though not in plaintext), location services, advertising ID (along with some account information), and Cortana usage.
Put more simply, if you have configured privacy settings on your phone, look for the same things on your computer.
You don't even have to provide your old key. Microsoft is doing some sort of backend activation that allows you to clean install with an ISO, and that system will activate when it's online for the first time. It's presently unclear how that activation will continue working if you change hardware.
You must first go through the upgrade for this to function as described.
So hypothetically, if I were running a version of Windows 7 that wasn't 100% legit, how would I purchase windows 10? I've looked all over the site but it keeps looping back to the "upgrade from windows 7 or 8 for free!" page.
@Signal said:
So hypothetically, if I were running a version of Windows 7 that wasn't 100% legit, how would I purchase windows 10? I've looked all over the site but it keeps looping back to the "upgrade from windows 7 or 8 for free!" page.
Rumor is you can claim your upgrade and go legit for free. Offer good for one year. Need these updates installed to get the offer:
For Windows 7 SP1:
KB3035583
KB2952664
For Windows 8.1 Update:
KB3035583
KB2976978
Are there any good explanations of this Cortana thing? I assume it is supposed to do what Google has been doing. Learning you through access to lots of your info and using that in part to make some things easier for you.
But what can it actually do now? Is it worth giving them that info at this point?
So without putting you on the spot too much, you do anticipate some improvements to existing DX11 titles by simply going to Windows 10 and updating to the latest graphics driver?
Sandbagging a bit, what would you say the impact is potentially like in terms of performance boost? I mean I know it's difficult to say without knowing what a specific rig is running, but for a typical 1080P gamer, a guy that has at least a healthy modern quad core CPU and a good $200 or so graphics card at least, do you anticipate noticeable gains of at least 10% or more in some DX11 titles simply through improved WDDM 2.0 drivers?
@Cliff_Forster said:
Sandbagging a bit, what would you say the impact is potentially like in terms of performance boost? I mean I know it's difficult to say without knowing what a specific rig is running, but for a typical 1080P gamer, a guy that has at least a healthy modern quad core CPU and a good $200 or so graphics card at least, do you anticipate noticeable gains of at least 10% or more in some DX11 titles simply through improved WDDM 2.0 drivers?
Probably closer to 5-7% max. Not huge, but it's free.
FYI... Windows 10 Enterprise is dropping in two different flavors. Normal Windows 10 (32 and 64-bit) and the LTSB (Long Term Servicing Branch). This is more like the traditional locked in features like with Windows 7, Windows 8,and Windows 8.1. Only security and bug fixes will be released. All the new features that are slowly rolled out to other Windows 10 users will NOT be rolled out to LTSB users.
It's installing on my home machine at the moment while I'm at work - started it over lunch. Pretty snazzy on the front end, we'll see how the rest works when I get back tonight.
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Question for a friend on the tech preview.
How do they upgrade? They've got a legit copy of Win7/key, but can't roll back to Win7 because the laptop is being a pos. They're on Tech Preview, should they download the ISO via http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10? Would that work when installing if they just provide their Win7 key?
Note they did a clean install of the tech preview and not the upgrade to it
@DontCallMeKelso said:
Question for a friend on the tech preview.
How do they upgrade? They've got a legit copy of Win7/key, but can't roll back to Win7 because the laptop is being a pos. They're on Tech Preview, should they download the ISO via http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10? Would that work when installing if they just provide their Win7 key?
Note they did a clean install of the tech preview and not the upgrade to it
When did they install the technical preview? What build do they currently have on their machine? Is this build currently activated?
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@Thrax said:
When did they install the technical preview? What build do they currently have on their machine? Is this build currently activated?
June 15th-20th (just over a month ago)
Will find out the rest. How can they tell if currently activated?
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This is an AMA, yet you don't know the answer?
Why would you call it an AMA then?
Should there not be some pre-qualification that you might not know the answer?
I am not mad, just disappointed.
Hey it's called "ask me anything", not "guarantee me an answer everything"
How was your Monday?
What is your favorite dish that @HumerusMeg has made for you?
I like my Scotch cold but not watered down. Whiskey stones don't do the trick. Dry ice in my Scotch a good idea or bad idea?
Try these.
Some people's kids, Brian. They're just not hip to reddit and these newfangled acronyms.
I don't know about scotch, but I love those ice spheres for my Manhattans. Also, @Linc... quoting posts is so broke. FIXITFIXITFIXIT
Compatibility view is one option (which you've stated) but also look into Enterprise mode for Internet Explorer... It's a registry setting that points IE to a master config file that lists how IE should render a particular webpage. (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Dn640687.aspx)
And, no, IE 8, IE9, and IE10 are not compatible with Win 10. As of January 2016, with Windows 7, and Win 8.1, IE11 will be the only support browser other than Microsoft Edge. (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/microsoft-internet-explorer)
Would you rather fight 100 duck sized windows 10 or 1 horse sized windows 10?
100 duck-sized Windows 10. I'm confident I could Godzilla them.
Some insight from a friend of mine:
"Anyway, Microsoft has hit Windows 10 installation out of the park. I always keep the tin foil ready and assume they will be buttheads at release but they were not. You can go right to Microsoft.com and get a ISO of Windows 10 - real legit "here it is no tricks" download: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
You can save a ISO, make USB, DVD, etc. No keys - when you upgrade it just does it, if you clean install it asks you for a Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 key. I used an old Windows 7 key, done. I am proud of Redmond."
It's almost like they finally realised that the best thing that ever happened to Windows was how easy it was for everyone to get ahold of 3.x, and that all the stuff they've done since then to curb piracy (and make it tougher for paying customers to do their thing in the process) only hurt their business.
Be sure to run through the privacy settings. There is quite a lot that's shared with Microsoft and/or others by default such as wifi passwords (shared with contacts, though not in plaintext), location services, advertising ID (along with some account information), and Cortana usage.
Put more simply, if you have configured privacy settings on your phone, look for the same things on your computer.
You don't even have to provide your old key. Microsoft is doing some sort of backend activation that allows you to clean install with an ISO, and that system will activate when it's online for the first time. It's presently unclear how that activation will continue working if you change hardware.
You must first go through the upgrade for this to function as described.
Regarding the privacy settings, how much of this masterpiece of MS Paint editing is legit?
So hypothetically, if I were running a version of Windows 7 that wasn't 100% legit, how would I purchase windows 10? I've looked all over the site but it keeps looping back to the "upgrade from windows 7 or 8 for free!" page.
Rumor is you can claim your upgrade and go legit for free. Offer good for one year. Need these updates installed to get the offer:
For Windows 7 SP1:
KB3035583
KB2952664
For Windows 8.1 Update:
KB3035583
KB2976978
The WiFi Sense feature gives me the creeps, but otherwise this just strikes me as shitty Reddit tinfoil hatting.
Are there any good explanations of this Cortana thing? I assume it is supposed to do what Google has been doing. Learning you through access to lots of your info and using that in part to make some things easier for you.
But what can it actually do now? Is it worth giving them that info at this point?
Yes, Cortana is Microsoft's take on the digital assistant a la Siri or Google Now. Here's a pretty comprehensive list of what Cortana can do: https://techranker.net/cortana-commands-list-microsoft-voice-commands-video/
So without putting you on the spot too much, you do anticipate some improvements to existing DX11 titles by simply going to Windows 10 and updating to the latest graphics driver?
Sandbagging a bit, what would you say the impact is potentially like in terms of performance boost? I mean I know it's difficult to say without knowing what a specific rig is running, but for a typical 1080P gamer, a guy that has at least a healthy modern quad core CPU and a good $200 or so graphics card at least, do you anticipate noticeable gains of at least 10% or more in some DX11 titles simply through improved WDDM 2.0 drivers?
Probably closer to 5-7% max. Not huge, but it's free.
Is that 5-7% max enough to overcome Cliff's fear of change though?
FYI... Windows 10 Enterprise is dropping in two different flavors. Normal Windows 10 (32 and 64-bit) and the LTSB (Long Term Servicing Branch). This is more like the traditional locked in features like with Windows 7, Windows 8,and Windows 8.1. Only security and bug fixes will be released. All the new features that are slowly rolled out to other Windows 10 users will NOT be rolled out to LTSB users.
Will there be an update (junk) folder of rollback files like a regular upgrade?
It's installing on my home machine at the moment while I'm at work - started it over lunch. Pretty snazzy on the front end, we'll see how the rest works when I get back tonight.
Sounds like my ex-wife.
Question for a friend on the tech preview.
How do they upgrade? They've got a legit copy of Win7/key, but can't roll back to Win7 because the laptop is being a pos. They're on Tech Preview, should they download the ISO via http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10? Would that work when installing if they just provide their Win7 key?
Note they did a clean install of the tech preview and not the upgrade to it
Yes. The Windows.old folder will be the primary source, and can be removed with the Disk Cleanup application if you're satisfied with the upgrade.
When did they install the technical preview? What build do they currently have on their machine? Is this build currently activated?
June 15th-20th (just over a month ago)
Will find out the rest. How can they tell if currently activated?