I didn't really want to add to the off topic conversation, but I couldnt resist
I'm a big believer in trying things out for myself. Although it is sometimes difficult, making an unbiased decision is best. I personally use firefox, but not because of the huge uprising as of late, or the 'bandwagon', but rather because I enjoy and regularly use some of the features not avaliable in other browsers. I love tab browsing, and the download manager, among other things. As far as people switching browsers simply because they have some personal grudge against microsoft: They are really not acting with your own best interests in mind. Try both browsers out, and make a non-biased decision based on your expereinces with the browser. Firefox may not be for everyone, and I will certainly not look down on anyone who wishes to use IE, or Opera, or any other browser. I will be staying out of this little battle everyone has created, but if anyone asks why I use firefox, I will certainly give them some honest answers. In all the hype about firefox I've seen, there has been very little discussion about the ACTUAL features that set it apart from Microsoft's product offerings. The biggest topic of conversation is always 'take back the web'. I do understand that this sort of advertising gains the most attention, but I think more attention needs to be put towards what makes firefox/mozilla unique..
Whatever browser you decide to use, just be sure you are using it for the right reasons
I might as well not be folding. World of Warcraft is currently killing my processor. I actually have to turn FAH off because of 200+ megs total ram usage. WoW needs even more. They cannot coexist.
On the whole browser war thing... I agree with prime. I use FF and have converted my parents, brother, and two friends to FF as well.
Gaming takes all of the CPU so it doesnt matter if FAH is running or not.
Hey Leo, Something sound fishy about your lappy.
The M generates so little heat, makes me wonder if your power/cooling settings are screwed up. Maybe you should look (if it will let you) at what it is using for cooling rules.
Maybe you can do something external to assist the cooling (a USB powered fan?).
Of course you can leave it folding full speed whenever you are not at your desk.
With the new 600 point job my production is back up nicely. Even on boxes where the time is 3 or 4 days I am geting more total points. My dedicated boxes are all feeding on them now.
My Dell Laptop with a 1.6 P-M can get up to 70C full go. It started out at 58-59 at 100% CPU usage but now its at like 70-71 and had to cut it down to 90% CPU usage. CPU fan is clear of dust so I dont know why the temps went up.
actually Cam, I AM on a crusade to get everybody to switch to firefox.. Not expert users like you guys, but the average joe user like my mom and dad, my sister, etc. Non-experts who use IE are just gigantic virus and spyware pumps. They sit there and get horrendously infected with every know piece of spyware and then their computers sit there and are used to generate even more and more (whether literally, or by creating revenue for spyware and virus authors). Non-experts who use firefox, like the vast majority of clients that I work with, are FAR safer using firefox than IE. You just can't deny that part of it.
The flaw in Mozilla Firefox 1.0, details of which were published by security company Secunia on Tuesday, could allow hackers to spoof the URL in the download dialog box that pops up when a Firefox user tries to download an item from a Web site. This flaw is caused by the dialog box incorrectly displaying long sub-domains and paths, which can be exploited to conceal the actual source of the download.
that wasn't my point at all. My point was that as it's popularity is rising, there is going to be people taking advantage of things like this, just like IE, and that this could ALSO be potentially harmful for these newbies you're trying to save from themselves, just like IE, no software is invulnerable.
Don't get your panties in a bunch man, geez, sorry that you take my comment about the FireFox browser as a personal attack.
Are you using the graphical client or the console? There is a way to avoid the jumbo WU's with the graphical. I would expect there to be a way to do it with the console, too.
Either way, don't give up just because you feel you can't Fold 24/7. Even a little bit is better than nothing. You have to sleep sometime, right?
I haven't given up, I know every bit helps. (And I want to hit 50k sometime soon ) I use two console clients, and both fold large units, hence ~206 megs average ram use. It's just that I disable FAH while gaming, and don't turn it back on until I go to sleep, but sometimes my brother plays when I go to sleep, so I leave the computer not folding all night, which sucks.
Gaming takes all of the CPU so it doesnt matter if FAH is running or not.
Not on a HT processor. It takes 50% (That's what Windows reports) But when it folds two units while gaming, the game runs very noticably slower. The 200 megs of ram already taken doesn't help either, but then again I have a gig. I'm almost certain FAH is creating a bottleneck on my processor for other apps. This is not the case when I turn off HT in the bios.
Luckily, WoW isn't all that graphically intense so I think I may survive leaving FAH on, I just hope I don't get any complaints about lag.
NOT just explaining why my computer doesn't fold as much as it used to.
OK, time for me to step in here and tell my bossman here and Camman to chill out and keep it civil and no debating, got it!
I have my P-M lappy folding 24/7 at 100% and no problems at all. The fan on this thing is so quiet I can hardly hear it even putting my ear right next to it. Are you sure the fan is working properly, Leo and Marc? This P-M laptop just chews through these bigwu gro's like candy at around 1900 pts/wk rate on the p1325 it's presently on. I just wish they made a modern desktop board using a modern chipset for these Dothan procs to really see what they will do.
As far as the rest of my farm, I have things running fairly well maxed out. I back a few computers down a notch when I come out here to work but I speed them back up when I get back in. Hopefully here in the next few months, I will be building my younger brother a new machine and it will have the client on it too, since he has dsl.
BTW, I still use IE primarily but I've been getting the non-geek types I know to switch to Firefox since there's less chance of them getting screwed over with it. I succeeded with one good friend; between his wife and kids they had that poor box tied in knots and it took me 3-4 hours to clear it out of all the spyware crap. Since they've been using Firefox and no problemo!
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edited January 2005
As far as I know, the laptop is perfectly sound working condition. I have no idea what I can do to quieten it. It's just too noisy to work with. It's brand new. I don't recall the specs. I'll have to write it down Monday when I'm back at work.
From from 1995 or so until early 2004, I used IE. Then I switched to Maxthon, which adds tab, gesture and similar functionality to IE. Then I switched to Firefox in December.
I, however, still think IE is a perfectly acceptable browser; I don't give two ****s what browser people use, as long as they're not tards with it. If they're tards, then they need something that's tard-proof, which is, in most cases, Firefox.
I, however, still think IE is a perfectly acceptable browser; I don't give two ****s what browser people use, as long as they're not tards with it. If they're tards, then they need something that's tard-proof, which is, in most cases, Firefox.
Believe me, tards can mess up just about anything, even Firefox, just give them a chance and they will find a way. Heck, they'd probably even find a way to mess up F@H too.
I just spent the afternoon of 01-06-2005 cleaning spyware and two viruses off of my sister's computer. I've told her and her husband repeatedly to not download crap off of the internet, to update their virus scan program at least once a week, and to not click on everything they get in an e-mail. Do they listen? Do they heed my advice? I'm considering checking up on them every month or so, just so I don't have to waste an entire afternoon again.
I don't give two ****s what browser people use, as long as they're not tards with it. If they're tards, then they need something that's tard-proof, which is, in most cases, Firefox.
HAHAHA I don't know why, but that was incredibly amusing at quarter to 4 in the morning. We should get them "Internet Helmets," too. "Browser protection for the noobtards among us!" Ay ay ay. Long day, I guess (I failed my road test ).
Anyway, yeah, I pretty much have the same story as Thrax. Not sure when I switched to Maxthon/MyIE2 ... not too long ago. Just started Firefox 'round the same time as him.
Hey, so did anyone notice how we've got around a day before we're overtaken?
Damn, d00d, how do you fail a road test? Hell, you need to move to Louisiana to take the test; my wife passed her road test here here in 1987 and she was definitely one of the scariest drivers I've ever had the displeasure of driving with and I was the one who taught her to drive. I thought I was going to die more than once, teaching her.
Why in the name of god is this thread in this forum at all? This belongs to the pub as far as i know. Even the mods takes this thread so far off topic it's silly. :shakehead
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I'm a big believer in trying things out for myself. Although it is sometimes difficult, making an unbiased decision is best. I personally use firefox, but not because of the huge uprising as of late, or the 'bandwagon', but rather because I enjoy and regularly use some of the features not avaliable in other browsers. I love tab browsing, and the download manager, among other things. As far as people switching browsers simply because they have some personal grudge against microsoft: They are really not acting with your own best interests in mind. Try both browsers out, and make a non-biased decision based on your expereinces with the browser. Firefox may not be for everyone, and I will certainly not look down on anyone who wishes to use IE, or Opera, or any other browser. I will be staying out of this little battle everyone has created, but if anyone asks why I use firefox, I will certainly give them some honest answers. In all the hype about firefox I've seen, there has been very little discussion about the ACTUAL features that set it apart from Microsoft's product offerings. The biggest topic of conversation is always 'take back the web'. I do understand that this sort of advertising gains the most attention, but I think more attention needs to be put towards what makes firefox/mozilla unique..
Whatever browser you decide to use, just be sure you are using it for the right reasons
Gaming takes all of the CPU so it doesnt matter if FAH is running or not.
Every bit helps, as i'm sure you are aware of.
Up and onwards to your next 50,000.
The M generates so little heat, makes me wonder if your power/cooling settings are screwed up. Maybe you should look (if it will let you) at what it is using for cooling rules.
Maybe you can do something external to assist the cooling (a USB powered fan?).
Of course you can leave it folding full speed whenever you are not at your desk.
With the new 600 point job my production is back up nicely. Even on boxes where the time is 3 or 4 days I am geting more total points. My dedicated boxes are all feeding on them now.
http://news.com.com/Firefox+flaw+raises+phishing+fears/2100-1002_3-5517149.html?tag=nefd.top
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sorry to continue the OT.
Okay, you win.. EVERYBODY SHOULD USE IE NOW, SINCE THERE IS ONE EXPLOIT AVAILABLE FOR FIREFOX, WHICH SUCKS NOW.
Don't get your panties in a bunch man, geez, sorry that you take my comment about the FireFox browser as a personal attack.
Not on a HT processor. It takes 50% (That's what Windows reports) But when it folds two units while gaming, the game runs very noticably slower. The 200 megs of ram already taken doesn't help either, but then again I have a gig. I'm almost certain FAH is creating a bottleneck on my processor for other apps. This is not the case when I turn off HT in the bios.
Luckily, WoW isn't all that graphically intense so I think I may survive leaving FAH on, I just hope I don't get any complaints about lag.
NOT
<font color=#F7F7F7>Hahahahaha. Pot? Kettle..</font>
Why did Willie Sutton rob banks?
I have my P-M lappy folding 24/7 at 100% and no problems at all. The fan on this thing is so quiet I can hardly hear it even putting my ear right next to it. Are you sure the fan is working properly, Leo and Marc?
As far as the rest of my farm, I have things running fairly well maxed out. I back a few computers down a notch when I come out here to work but I speed them back up when I get back in. Hopefully here in the next few months, I will be building my younger brother a new machine and it will have the client on it too, since he has dsl.
BTW, I still use IE primarily but I've been getting the non-geek types I know to switch to Firefox since there's less chance of them getting screwed over with it. I succeeded with one good friend; between his wife and kids they had that poor box tied in knots and it took me 3-4 hours to clear it out of all the spyware crap. Since they've been using Firefox and no problemo!
Thread starter says this post is now dual topic... if that is ok with the moderators.
From from 1995 or so until early 2004, I used IE. Then I switched to Maxthon, which adds tab, gesture and similar functionality to IE. Then I switched to Firefox in December.
I, however, still think IE is a perfectly acceptable browser; I don't give two ****s what browser people use, as long as they're not tards with it. If they're tards, then they need something that's tard-proof, which is, in most cases, Firefox.
Believe me, tards can mess up just about anything, even Firefox, just give them a chance and they will find a way. Heck, they'd probably even find a way to mess up F@H too.
I just spent the afternoon of 01-06-2005 cleaning spyware and two viruses off of my sister's computer. I've told her and her husband repeatedly to not download crap off of the internet, to update their virus scan program at least once a week, and to not click on everything they get in an e-mail. Do they listen? Do they heed my advice? I'm considering checking up on them every month or so, just so I don't have to waste an entire afternoon again.
Anyway, yeah, I pretty much have the same story as Thrax. Not sure when I switched to Maxthon/MyIE2 ... not too long ago. Just started Firefox 'round the same time as him.
Hey, so did anyone notice how we've got around a day before we're overtaken?
Sorry to hear that you had problems with it.
I have an Athlon XP 2400+ and Sempron 2400+ systm running about 6 hours a day each.
~Cyrix