Short-Media.com: 6.2.03 – 6.2.07

Lincoln Russell 23 May, 2007 at 9:27pm ET Article published in Tech

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1. 
   23 May 2007 ~ 11:52pm Linc On June 2, Short-Media and Icrontic will be merged into a single site under the Icrontic name and domain. All forum data will, of course, be preserved and merged.
   
   If you never knew Icrontic, you're not in the minority, so a history of the sites <strike>will soon be</strike> is now online to explain their connection.
   
   
   
   Let's talk particulars.
   
   First, forum accounts will be merged by e-mail address. If you have accounts on both sites, PLEASE take the time to make sure your e-mail address is the same for both before June 1. Your Short-Media username, password, and profile settings will take precedence, so act accordingly. We're happy to alter names as necessary. If you get to this late, we can also manually merge accounts afterward, but please help us out by checking beforehand.
   
   Second, the four active Icrontic staff members (Aranyic, LIN, Zuntar, and yagga) will be joining us in our virtual Conference Room to offer their perspectives and ideas as we move forward. We're glad to have them on board!
   
   Third, threads from the current Icrontic forums will likely be reassigned ID numbers. That means bookmarks to current IC threads will stop working. Sorry, nothing I can do about that. All current links on Short-Media (including articles and news) will continue to work and will be forwarded appropriately. We expect this move will have zero effect on search engine rankings and such.
   
   Fourth, both forums will be down for up to an hour on Saturday, June 2 while we merge the databases and confirm the results. The time it begins will depend on several things (mostly my sleeping schedule).
   
   
   
   Why are we doing this?
   
   Our primary reason was branding. The Short-Media name has weaknesses that I won't spell out, but there are several. If ever there was an obvious first choice for a strong alternative name, Icrontic is clearly that. Of course there's a nostalgia factor, but we won't be dwelling on the past. We are years past when the name "Icrontic" alone would provide us strength and momentum. We're going to be relying on our own works and deeds to move us forward.
   
   The third reason for me, personally, is a fresh start. It represents both the goal I've been working toward for the last month (in a development and planning mindset) and a new set of goals for the future (in a content-production mindset). The last two years have seen this site plateau and begin to decline. That's the hard truth. Now, it's time to halt and reverse that trend. I'm ready, and the name change provides an impetus to begin that reversal.
   
   
   
   Icrontic is a part of our past, and now it is our future as well. Whether you were there when it fell in 2003, joined during the last four years, or only signed up last week, we hope you'll be a part of that future.
   
   It's looking bright.
2. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 12:21am Aranyic It's way past my bedtime so I won't ramble like I normally would when I'm tired . But I am extremely excited about the merge; I have been with Icrontic (apu's hardware long ago) for about 13 years now as best as I can remember. There have been ups and down, I have been involved in staff of it for probably 10 years starting with simply transferring posts from the forums to a faq system way back. A few years ago when Icrontic went up for sale again I grabbed it so it didn't become an advertisement site but didn't really have the time nor desire to put towards it as I look back now.
   
   I feel like Icrontic is finally home and I could not be happier with the future for it. I have zero doubt that it and short-media will flourish and grow again and look forward to being around for it. For anyone who is worried, don't . Short-media is not changing, Icrontic is just coming home
   
   A lot of you won't remember me at all, but I think I am back home now. I'll be around for a long while.
   
   -Phil 'Aranyic' Douglas
3. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 12:48am Wired While I wasn't a member of the original Icrontic, I sure do remember the fallout and all of the crazy discussions @ attaboy soon after.
   
   Aranyic: Did Apu's Hardware turn into Icrontic?
4. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 12:51am a2jfreak May be off topic, but, what about F@H?
   SM is #93, IC is #33693
   Will #33693 be abandoned? Will Stanford allow the points to be merged?
5. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 1:01am Linc @ Wired: Yes, Mortin changed the name after about a year I think.
   

   a2jfreak wrote:

   May be off topic, but, what about F@H?

   Conversation for another thread That's up to the Team, Committee, and Stanford.
6. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 1:23am jared

   Keebler wrote:

   @ Wired: Yes, Mortin changed the name after about a year I think.
   
   
   Conversation for another thread That's up to the Team, Committee, and Stanford.

   
   
   Correct. He didn't want any legal issues with "Apus" so him and Celcho came up with Icrontic, which really means nothing :P
7. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 1:26am BLuKnight I think this is a positive direction. No matter what flag this community flies under, Icrontic or Short-Media, it's always going to be the same friendly, helpful atmosphere.
8. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 1:31am mmonnin Jesus changing URLs is the death of a site.
   
   The key to a successful site is frontend news/reviews/articles, plain and simple. Icrontic and Short-Media were never higher in Alexia or popularity or hits or internet reputation than when fresh, new, interesting articles were published! End of story. Believe it or not but thats what has determined the sucess during the history of IC/SM. Think of the times when when Keith or MM would create a glorious article such as breaking into the Xbox.....the key lies with the frontend...no matter what its called.
   
   Merge forces or w/e but sometimes change is bad.
9. 
   24 May 2007 ~ 1:33am jared Yeah I remember when they cracked open the GameCube it brought IC to its knees (thanks to /.) for a couple of days haha
   ahh the memories :P
10. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 1:34am Linc

    mmonnin wrote:

    Jesus changing URLs is the death of a site.

    Not if you do it correctly. I know how to do it correctly.

    mmonnin wrote:

    The key to a successful site is frontend news/reviews/articles, plain and simple.

    I'm well aware and under no illusions about what must be done.
11. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 1:49am WuGgaRoO please tell me we are keeping our color scheme
12. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 1:53am Linc

    WuGgaRoO wrote:

    please tell me we are keeping our color scheme

    How about "IC darkness will not become the default"?
13. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:11am primesuspect it's been a long time coming, eh?
14. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:18am mmonnin

    Keebler wrote:

    Not if you do it correctly. I know how to do it correctly.
    

    
    What like http://www.google.com/googlegear.html
    

    I'm well aware and under no illusions about what must be done.

    
    Joining doesnt fix/change this.
15. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:51am IndigoRed I've read chatter on here about Icrontic in one of the dark and dusty vaults. Severe nostalgia... I suppose the way I'll feel about SMF. But having said that, I have nostalgia for my first car, my first love, etc. But I'll never go back.
    You make Icrontic good (great) Keebler; I'll keep spreading your gospel. Lay SMF to rest with honours.
    
    
16. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:52am keto /me skulks out of his deep dark hideaway
    
    :celebrate
    
    Congratulations!
    
    It's gonna feel wierd, I must say. I was not around in the old Apu/Icrontic days, but did join S-M very shortly after launch and have watched it evolve from a (mainly) hardware review site, to the best-bar-none spyware killin crew, through changes in management and ownership and direction. I'll be lurking around but know that I wish y'all nothing but the best with the new changes.
    
    -Kent
17. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:58am IndigoRed ps. Loved the video! Bastards, make me laugh when I got the flu... "tell your mom..." ROFL *hack* *wheeze*
18. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 3:06am Lammypie Even though I'm no where near as active as I once was under the icrontic flag, I still lurk regularly. I'm delighted to hear this excellent news.
    
    For what my two pence is worth - I agree with mmonnin, about the content. I've found this a little lacking in recent times.
    
    My mind keeps thinking about Mortin...
    
    Congratulations people, lets hope Icrontic and Short-media re-united as one, regain the former glorious crown of being the best Technology site there is.
19. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 3:07am qparadox While I thought the banner of Short-media was great and there's been an incredible run here, I'm also excited that we're going to be icronticians (?) again. I've been in the shadows since the apu's days and I've seen the community wane and then explode in growth several times. Here's to a great future and many many more years!.
    
    
20. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 3:38am PirateNinja Oh hell yah, I still have photoshop files for my old icrontic sig to match the dark blues :P
21. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 6:11am dragonV8 We wish you guys & girls all the best with this new venture (of old).
    Fortunately my username is the same in both.:)
    
    
    oh, and remember matthew.......................breathe.;D
22. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 8:20am Zuntar I have read and learned and experienced a lot about the staff at SM over the last 4 years; especially Kebbler and primesuspect. Selfishness, lack of caring, and failure to commit to a task and see it through are NOT quality's or mind sets that they posses.
    
    Change is not something to be feared but rather to be embraced and in life it is inevitable. A new coat of paint is always nice for a while, but sometimes moving to a new "home" is what is necessary for a new start. This is a good thing!!
23. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 8:44am Cyclonite Woo! I like the new logo.
24. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 9:22am QCH The new logo ROCK!!! Oh yeah... It ROCKS!!!
    
    Every decision of this magnitude is fraught with the possibility of failure and success... Sitting back and letting Icrontic die off is just as big of a decision as merging. The key here is that the decision was made after careful consideration by the owners. The staff from both sites are in support of this.... We just need your support and patients while this is all worked out.
    
    The truth of the matter... Icrontic has not died when, by all rights, it probably should have if not for a group of dedicated members, staff, and owners. Short-Media probably should be a success and be in the position to purchase Icrontic if it weren't for great members, staff, and owners. The new Icrontic will have a great staff and owners... all we need is your support. With that, we will bring the Icrontic name back and make it mean something!!!
25. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 9:25am Jimborae I've not posted in a long time but then i got the email regarding this and suddenly got a warm fluffy sense of deja vu.
    
    Glad I've still got my Spudz case badge from years ago, now it can reside back in it's rightful place on my main rig next to my SM Anniversary badge.
    
    Here's to the future and best of luck guys!
26. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:09am celcho i'm so glad icrontic is coming back. it will be better this time than it was before.
27. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:18am BuddyJ Hell. Yes.
    
    This is gonna rock! I can't wait to see what happens now.
28. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:31am JLunar yeeeys! congrats guys!!! *returns to lurking*
29. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:33am Garg Sweet action! Viva le Spudz!
    
    Now, what about the merchandising? Icrontic reunion t-shirts, case badges, plushes...
30. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:34am CB I've never been an Icrontic member. I was invited to join this crowd the day SM opened its doors, and it's been a part of my life ever since. This is the only public forum where I can truely say I'm part of the community. I have many friends here.
    
    The name change is disapointing, and the SM brand will be missed.
    
    However, I understand the need to move forward, and I certainly understand the desire to move away from a business name that no longer feels relevant or marketable (Nexlia had to do this once, as well, coming to rest, similarly, on a name that essentially means nothing at all, and when I was a teenager, my mother bought a store that had someone elses name on it, which she always resented, but never had the courage to change).
    
    So despite my lack of personal connection to the Icrontic name, I put my support behind this change, and I will do my best to help make the new entity more succesful as a business and (possibaly more importantly) just as succsesful as a community of friends.
31. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:45am mirage Changes are stressful, especially at a place I like ... At such times I think the best attitude is working with others; is there anything I can do?
32. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:51am SPIKE09 Being really new here and never been associated with Icrontic apart from a trrawl through what archived stuff Matt posted. I hope all goes well with the merge.
    
    
    Chris
    
    PS if this means testing more innocent gaming machines to destruction and filming it
    
    PPS back it all up first
33. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:56am Linc

    SPIKE09 wrote:

    PPS back it all up first

    We do every night
34. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:59am Garg

    Keebler wrote:

    We do every night

    
    Now that's a lesson learned
    
    Btw, Keebs, I see you've left the service. I can understand, after the hoopla surrounding our naval arm earlier this week. So long as you know you'll always be herr general.
35. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 11:31am Oriane I'm curious as to what you are going to do about your Folding@Home team name?
36. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 11:55am primesuspect There are no plans to change the folding team name or number.
37. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 12:28pm LIN This is a wonderful and exciting opportunity, and I view it as a merger which, with continued support, growing content and community, will flourish to the fullest.
    
    Proud to be a part of it; you guys are awesome!
    
    
    
    LIN
38. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 12:44pm floppybootstomp Good luck with the merger guys, wishing you all the best for the future
    
    I joined Icrontic just after it changed from Apu's. Those were, uh, 'spirited' days
    
    Any Icy Hot Stuntaz planned?
39. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 12:47pm Garg

    floppybootstomp wrote:

    Any Icy Hot Stuntaz planned?

    
    Must... resist... Photochopping...
40. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 1:14pm jared

    floppybootstomp wrote:

    Good luck with the merger guys, wishing you all the best for the future
    
    I joined Icrontic just after it changed from Apu's. Those were, uh, 'spirited' days
    
    Any Icy Hot Stuntaz planned?

    
    HAHA, that just made my morning.
    
    I still have most of those pictures. I could never get enough of the Icy Hot Stuntaz or the ghetto articles.
    Mortin just didn't give a rats ass and did whatever he wanted, and we loved it
41. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:10pm mmonnin Hehe I remember a CRT monitor throwing video and a case smashing video in particular. Not sure if I still have those tucked away somewhere...
42. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:11pm airoh69 So what will happen with the post counts. Will they be combined for people that are members on both forums???
43. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:14pm Garg

    Keebler wrote:

    How about "IC darkness will not become the default"?

    
    Heh, every time I read that I keep thinking about Dave Chappelle (Rick James) saying "Darkness!"
44. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:16pm Linc

    airoh69 wrote:

    So what will happen with the post counts. Will they be combined for people that are members on both forums???

    Yes.
45. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:16pm jared

    Keebler wrote:

    How about "IC darkness will not become the default"?

    
    Will it be available as a secondary template via user profiles?
    
    I was always fond of ICs darker color schemes myself
    
    
46. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:18pm Linc

    jared wrote:

    Will it be available as a secondary template via user profiles?

    Many things will be revealed in a week. Until then... mysteries abound.
47. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:22pm jared we should have some sort of release party no?
    
    Giant (temporary) IRC gathering or something of that nature?
48. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:23pm Linc

    jared wrote:

    we should have some sort of release party no?

    Yes, and it's called "the LAN"
49. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:25pm jared except it is 20 days too late?
50. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 2:28pm Garg

    jared wrote:

    except it is 20 days too late?

    
    Pfft, you and your linear concept of time.
51. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 4:18pm Jengo Hope the merger goes well guys!!
    
    
52. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 4:54pm Nomad

    mmonnin wrote:

    Jesus changing URLs is the death of a site.
    
    The key to a successful site is frontend news/reviews/articles, plain and simple. Icrontic and Short-Media were never higher in Alexia or popularity or hits or internet reputation than when fresh, new, interesting articles were published! End of story. Believe it or not but thats what has determined the sucess during the history of IC/SM. Think of the times when when Keith or MM would create a glorious article such as breaking into the Xbox.....the key lies with the frontend...no matter what its called.
    
    Merge forces or w/e but sometimes change is bad.

    
    We aren't exactly attracting consistent members by the droves. I like the Short-Media 'brand' as it were, but I doubt a name change will be as stifling as has been alluded to.
53. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 6:12pm mmonnin

    jared wrote:

    Will it be available as a secondary template via user profiles?
    
    I was always fond of ICs darker color schemes myself
    
    

    
    AMBMB forum, oops another forum that changed names on me, has color schemes. I still use the old Green one. So most likely there is a hack for VB or some option to have this and just was not implented.
54. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 8:44pm wb22rules Glad to hear the news, the mobster guy is back
    
    hey mmonnin, working in Northern Va again now, I will beep the horn when I drive through Manassas from now on
55. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 8:50pm mmonnin Through Manassas or along I-66. If its along I-66 I sure how its on in the morning.../shugger @ morning traffic.
56. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 9:09pm Linc

    wb22rules wrote:

    Glad to hear the news

    Hey WB!
    
    If anyone wants to stop by PC Perspective and say hello: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=440835
    
    :cheers2:
57. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 9:37pm Afterburner Great News, guys!! Here's to a bright future!
58. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:12pm wb22rules

    mmonnin wrote:

    Through Manassas or along I-66. If its along I-66 I sure how its on in the morning.../shugger @ morning traffic.

    
    My pain is the 36 miles between Fredericksburg and Newington, but I do get out your way every so often
    
    Heya Keebs
59. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:29pm mmonnin

    wb22rules wrote:

    My pain is the 36 miles between Fredericksburg and Newington, but I do get out your way every so often
    
    Heya Keebs

    
    Ahh I see. I've pass that way a couple of times on my way down to Norfolk....sometimes very slowly along I-95 for 40+ miles in stop and go traffic.
    
    My supervisor actually lives in Stafford and travels a bit of that road up to 234.
60. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 10:52pm wb22rules It doesnt take much to turn it into a parking lot, like this morning when the HOV central command didnt open the gates on time :banghead:
    
    Its good to be the boss as I dont have to worry about getting lip if I am late, but on the other hand its hard to give lip if you dont set the example. I do enjoy being the manager now (new job started January), but I95 can be trying on you It certainly aint a leisurely ride to Charlottesville I know I66 is no better
61. 
    24 May 2007 ~ 11:19pm XZGohan

    jared wrote:

    we should have some sort of release party no?
    
    Giant (temporary) IRC gathering or something of that nature?

    
    There is still a small clique from the original apus/early icrontic that sits in an IRC channel.
    
    Anyway, no longer active with IC but it's nice to hear.
62. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 1:31am mmonnin

    wb22rules wrote:

    It doesnt take much to turn it into a parking lot, like this morning when the HOV central command didnt open the gates on time :banghead:
    
    Its good to be the boss as I dont have to worry about getting lip if I am late, but on the other hand its hard to give lip if you dont set the example. I do enjoy being the manager now (new job started January), but I95 can be trying on you It certainly aint a leisurely ride to Charlottesville I know I66 is no better

    
    I hardly drive on either as I live/work in Manassas but I will be most likely traveling on 66 or 28 when rent is up end of next month...
    
    I may have to join mIRC to see what is going down...its been years.
63. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 6:54am GnomeWizardd ON MY BIRTHDAY! woot june 2nd is a good day
64. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 8:22am TBonZ Wow!!!!
65. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 12:35pm kanezfan

    Wired wrote:

    ....all of the crazy discussions @ attaboy soon after...

    
    
    that's aDDaboy O.o
    
    and might I also add, I can understand the concern that this name change would somehow harm the site here, but I think the whole tech centric site with forums has been done to death. The big major sites survived the gold rush and many many smaller sites fell by the wayside. I think (hell i know from experience) that while it may look easy to run a site, it quickly becomes a real job that you have to put many hours into and it can and did, for me, become a boring chore. you guys here are a dedicated bunch though so i'm glad to see the icrontic name will be well taken care of.
    
    name change or no, it's the content that will make a difference, and the willingness and dedication of those behind the content to come up with fresh and new ideas to keep people tuned in and to draw in new sets of eyeballs on a daily basis.
66. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 12:44pm Linc

    kanezfan wrote:

    name change or no, it's the content that will make a difference, and the willingness and dedication of those behind the content to come up with fresh and new ideas to keep people tuned in and to draw in new sets of eyeballs on a daily basis.

    Truer words were never spoken. Good to see you, Kanez.
67. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 12:49pm Whizzkid_amer wat exactly happened to icrontic to make it fail?
68. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 12:50pm kanezfan good to see you keebs
69. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 1:23pm Linc

    Whizzkid_amer wrote:

    wat exactly happened to icrontic to make it fail?

    A well-timed question. Now finished: The Story So Far: Icrontic.com's History.
70. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 1:53pm Kwitko Kanez, where ya been? Good to have you back.
71. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 1:58pm jared

    Keebler wrote:

    A well-timed question. Now finished: The Story So Far: Icrontic.com's History.

    
    Great write up Brian. Something like this was long over due.
72. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:00pm kanezfan

    Kwitko wrote:

    Kanez, where ya been? Good to have you back.

    
    been playing WoW mostly. Lost interest in the hardware scene, which kinda sucks cause now i'm itching for an upgrade and i'm having to catch up lol
73. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:02pm Linc

    jared wrote:

    Great write up Keebs. Something like this was long over due.

    Thanks - Brian wrote it, I edited.
74. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:03pm a2jfreak

    Keebler wrote:

    A well-timed question. Now finished: The Story So Far: Icrontic.com's History.

    
    I vaguely remember an SM defacing. Why not just say which Icrontic admin it was? Also, what happened to Tex? I haven't seen a new post from him in quite some time. I'm not positive, but I think Tex has more posts than anyone at Icrontic, so he was definitely a big part of the site.
75. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:03pm primesuspect In other news, Kanez and others will be writing a piece about how WoW destroys communities
    
    Hiya Kanez. How's Jakob?
76. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:05pm primesuspect

    a2jfreak wrote:

    I vaguely remember an SM defacing. Why not just say which Icrontic admin it was? Also, what happened to Tex? I haven't seen a new post from him in quite some time. I'm not positive, but I think Tex has more posts than anyone at Icrontic, so he was definitely a big part of the site.

    
    I didn't want to give more credit to the "admin" than was due, so I left the name out. Nobody's quite sure what happened to Tex. He had some legal troubles and pretty much dropped offline about a year ago.
77. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:09pm a2jfreak

    kanezfan wrote:

    been playing WoW mostly. Lost interest in the hardware scene, which kinda sucks cause now i'm itching for an upgrade and i'm having to catch up lol

    
    To catch you up: After Intel came out with an upgrade to the Pentium 4 dubbed "Prescott" AMD sat on its hands and sat and sat and sat until Intel came out with the Core CPU. AMD continued to sit on its hands until Intel came out with the Core 2 CPU that not only was noticeably faster clock-for-clock, but would often overclock well in excess of 3GHz. Oh, somewhere in there AMD released the DDR2 version of the Athlon 64 with a new socket--AM2. Performance stayed consistent with the previous part. Now AMD is soon to release its first major revision since introducing the Opteron a few years ago and it is called Barcelona or K8L depending on who you talk to. Intel is readying Penryn which is Core 2 with a die shrink and I believe a few modifications.
78. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:10pm BuddyJ That still doesn't explain where Tex went.
    
    Nice to see you around here Kanezfan.
79. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:23pm kanezfan

    primesuspect wrote:

    In other news, Kanez and others will be writing a piece about how WoW destroys communities
    
    Hiya Kanez. How's Jakob?

    
    Not only communities, but lives, businesses, reputations. I became so addicted to WoW, that I ended traveling to Thailand, where I sold my left kidney in order to afford the monthly fee. I endured the pain of the operation without anesthesia as my guild had a scheduled raid and I didn't want to risk being kicked out of the guild for being absent. I found an internet cafe where I took up residence, serving coffee during the time I'd normally be asleep. My employer didn't mind my whacked out on caffeine look as it helped to promote his business. I remained awake for one year and two months, when my body gave out and I fell asleep for exactly 3 weeks and 4 days.
    
    My boss fired me for sleeping on the job and I once again turned to elective surgery to maintain my WoW habit. This time I sold my left testicle. My genital area is still feeling sore but the pain feels a little better with each Epic I win when raiding Karazhan, Gruul's Lair, and Serpentshrine Cavern.
    
    OK so yeah WoW messes people up some, but I've been in Florida this whole time I swear hahah. Jake is turning 2 on May 31, and we're having his birthday party this Sunday. He is the greatest thing ever. And sure kids are hard on you, but there is no greater joy in this messed up world we live in right now then when we put him to sleep at night and he rolls over to snuggle you as he falls asleep. That is, to me, the simplest and greatest, most wonderful part of my day, bar none.
80. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:23pm kanezfan And hi to everybody btw, and thanks for the hellos too
81. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:29pm a2jfreak

    primesuspect wrote:

    I didn't want to give more credit to the "admin" than was due, so I left the name out.

    
    I can understand and appreciate that, but I also think if a history of Icrontic/SM is being given, that information could be of some import.
    
    Not a huge deal, though.
    
    I remember visiting Icrontic for a couple of years before before I joined the forums. I don't recall exactly how long I had been a member of the forums before IC was hacked, but I think it was approximately 1-2 weeks.
    
    Icrontic, AnandTech, OCWorkbench, HardOCP, those were a few of my "Daily Stops." I personally don't care about the name of the site, Short-Media or Icrontic as it's the people not the name that make a site worth visiting. I will say it's nice to think Icrontic could be brought back especially since I always thought the name "Icrontic" was nice, but at the same time I think it's a bit disappointing to see Short-Media exit the scene.
    
    On to the future.
82. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 2:37pm a2jfreak

    kanezfan wrote:

    He is the greatest thing ever. And sure kids are hard on you, but there is no greater joy in this messed up world we live in right now then when we put him to sleep at night and he rolls over to snuggle you as he falls asleep. That is, to me, the simplest and greatest, most wonderful part of my day, bar none.

    
    Truth!
    
    I have four children now, two through marriage and two by blood. My two daughters were born approximately 16 months apart. July 18, 2005 and November 21, 2006. The love I have for them is indescribable. Having my oldest daughter rest her head against me and run to me melts my heart. Hearing her say "OK" and "Alright" in response to my saying something to her feels unbelievable. Having her say "I love you, too" back to me or my wife after we've told her we love her is almost too much for me to handle at times. Watching her interact with her two older brothers and with her younger sister fills me with feelings of love and happiness I know only a parent can understand. Parenthood is the most wonderful gift God gave us aside from Christ.
83. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 3:14pm NLichtman I like our banner more than theirs. I also like our layout more.
84. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 3:17pm Thrax Neither layout is remaining when the merger happens.
85. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 3:27pm Linc Both get better.
86. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 5:21pm Komete I learned how to build my first computer on Icrontic. This was back in PIII days. Built a duron 600mghz system and thought I was king sh*& overclocking it to 900mghz. I'm thinking it was 7 years ago that I first found it. Every now and then I go and just take a look around, just for old times sake. The people were great, the vibe was great, and the news/front page was out of this world. It had the right mix of hardware, science, and in someways junk science that had me check the front page 10 times a day at least. It was entertaining and stimulating. I found some off that here.
    
    Based off the past couple of years you can't do anything worse with the Icrontic name but if you're going to do this Pulease bring back interesting daily news. Hell or just regular news.
    
    Anyways, congrats on the merger and I have high hopes.
87. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 5:40pm mmonnin Hehe I was on the day meepins fubared the site pretty good....I was holy **** ******!......click a new link....ahhh...its gone...oh **** that link is ****** now too!!.....OMG its not a mistake. SM is being hacked as a browse it. Soon enough everything went to that god aweful picture....which is a female btw.
88. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 5:57pm jared if i recall SM became goatxx for a day haha
89. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 7:03pm Thrax GOAT SE DOT CX goooooo
90. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 7:24pm Komete

    Keebler wrote:

    Watch the Flash video announcement (with sound, 480KB, under 2 min.) or download the exe (Windows Projector, 2.8 MB).
    

    
    I just watched the flash. That was pretty good.
91. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 7:42pm BuiesCreek847 Hey folks!
    
    Congrats on the upcoming plans. I know this has been something y'all have wanted for some time. I can't get over how long it's been since we had y'all for the sleep-over. Looking back, it was fun (not the hacking).
    
    Having back-ups is one thing, having working back-ups is something else.
    
    Y'all be smart. I'll see ya in the new digs.
    
    David (BC / Former AMDMB.com hotel manager)
92. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 9:03pm mmonnin Good to see you stop in BC!
93. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 9:37pm LiLbRo
94. 
    25 May 2007 ~ 10:54pm Thelemech
    when I first saw the flash present Drnk
    I said holly F%$^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
95. 
    26 May 2007 ~ 12:17am Garg

    Keebler wrote:

    A well-timed question. Now finished: The Story So Far: Icrontic.com's History.

    
    Thanks for the article, guys! There were so many little details that I didn't have exactly right.
96. 
    26 May 2007 ~ 12:37am Tigsman lots and lots of names i aint seen in a very long time in this thread. Glad to see y'all again and seeing IC coming home
    
    
    T
97. 
    26 May 2007 ~ 12:58am Linc Buies and Tigs: really great to see you both I hope, after we start publishing June 4, you all find reason to stop by more often. It's good having you around.
98. 
    26 May 2007 ~ 8:29am Zuntar

    a2jfreak wrote:

    Truth!
    
    .......................................... Parenthood is the most wonderful gift God gave us aside from Christ.

    
    Amen brother!!! Parenthood, The most difficult and rewarding job ever!!
    
    

    Keebler wrote:

    A well-timed question. Now finished: The Story So Far: Icrontic.com's History.

    
    WELL DONE!!
99. 
    27 May 2007 ~ 2:54pm Leonardo Hello, everyone! Sorry to add to this so late. I've just returned from being out of state for over a week without a computer.
100. 
     27 May 2007 ~ 4:22pm Qeldroma

     Leonardo wrote:

     I've just returned from being out of state for over a week without a computer.

     
     Hehe- good to hear form you again, Leo- I was just wondering what was up. I've been living on the road a while too and I can attest to the fact that some places haven't even adopted the word "internet" into their vocabulary yet either.
     
     At any rate, it sounds like many here are going to be having some collegiate-age nostalgic euphoria for a while. Ahem, I can't even remember that far back anymore ... ... ... oh ... now I remember something ...