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The art of asking a woman out on a date

The art of asking a woman out on a date

Did you just ask me if my father was a thief?

Did you just ask me if my father was a thief?

Even though there are approximately eleventy billion other guides and slideshows and videos that cover the topic, I am writing this brief guide. Why? Because you gents seem to want to make it so much more complicated than it is. It becomes a huge production; a Thing that you have to deal with, an Epic Quest–when really it should be more like ordering lunchmeat at a deli.

Yes, I did just allude that asking a woman out is both like a monetary transaction and like picking up something at a meat market. Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? But isn’t it basically a transaction?

You ask a woman out; but what she hears subconsciously is this: “I would like to barter an amount of time spent in your company for coffee/dinner/a movie/LARPing.” (Please, though, not that last one…)

Step One: see a woman you’re attracted to, and ask her out. That’s kind of it. She’ll say yes or no. Perhaps she’ll cop out and say she’s busy, or maybe she has actual plans and then offers a different day or time. They’re really just variations of yes or no. If she says no, move on. Women are a dime a dozen. As a woman, I am telling you this.

Don’t get depressed because one woman turned you down–she was probably bad in the sack, anyway. If she says yes, awesome! Don’t forget to actually follow through and decide on details. Personally, I like coffee or meeting for a drink for the first date. That way, if it’s awful, you haven’t committed to an entire dinner or movie or rock climbing adventure. On the other hand, if it’s a lot of fun, you can extend it into something else. Another good thing about coffee? It’s not going to break the bank. And it can be had on an afternoon, so you don’t block off your whole evening when you could be reorganizing your comic book collection or burninating in Team Fortress 2.

An addendum to Step One, because I refuse to have a Step Two: confidence is key. That whole women-like-jerks stereotype has some truth to it. Complete self confidence is so damn sexy–even when it bleeds over into a bit of arrogance. A woman doesn’t want to have to maintain your self-esteem all the time, or constantly reassure you that you’re a good boy and a smart boy and a strong boy–unless she has some mommy-son fantasies she’s working out, but I’m not sure I should address that kind of thing here…

A woman wants a man who knows he’s the shit, and isn’t afraid to show it!  Get out there, find that girl in your Physics class/working at the indie bookstore/who lives down the street, stride confidently up to her, give her that sly half-grin you’ve been practicing in the mirror, and ask her what she’s doing tomorrow night.  You might just get lucky.

Comments

  1. Thrax
    Thrax In b4 "girls on the internet?" or nerd panic.
  2. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ I love coffee!
  3. Ryder
    Ryder mmmmm Coffee.
  4. ardichoke
    ardichoke I hope that none of the feminist groups find this article. Your deli allusion would be sure to cause an outrage shitstorm.
  5. primesuspect
    primesuspect I hope they do. We could use the controversy :D
  6. wahay I'm a relationship expert—having one failed relationship—so I can assure everyone this article is inaccurate.

    Now that I'm done being silly— the first point wasn't a joke though :c — I can thank you for this different spin on the dating thing. All my opinions on approaching girls are so nebulous that I have no idea how to get 'em down on paper, but I am solidified in the confidence aspect.
  7. poofie
    poofie OMG THERES GIRLS ON THE INTERNET!?
  8. MAGIC
    MAGIC Who hit the bell 5 times at the ren fest?

    ... THIS GUY!

    Wanna go out some time? ..works every time.
  9. ardichoke
    ardichoke Why do they always have to show up and ruin everything? Guess I need to cross the Internet off the list of places I can hide from dem evil wimmen-folk.
  10. fatcat
    fatcat Interesting guide. Now where is the guide for dating multiple women at the same time? Cause that's what men want :p
  11. lunchb0x
    lunchb0x
    fatcat wrote:
    Interesting guide. Now where is the guide for dating multiple women at the same time? Cause that's what men want :p

    There's a Utah joke in there somewhere
  12. ardichoke
    ardichoke
    lunchb0x wrote:
    There's a Utah joke in there somewhere
    LOLMormons
  13. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx I am confident! ....aren't I?

    .....

    lol'ing and self pity aside, Confidence is one of the hardest parts in my opinion. That and fear of rejection, which most might say are one in the same.

    Also Wahay, 'sup with all the "guest" posting you've done as of late?
  14. GnomeQueen
    GnomeQueen As I used to tell my speech novices, fake confidence is the same as real confidence. Pretend to be confident, and everyone will think you totally are.
  15. Winfrey
  16. pseudonym
    pseudonym +1 to confidence. Directly connected to that is looking them in the eye and smiling when you introduce yourself.
  17. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster Has anyone ever heard of this little trick called being yourself? It's like the ultimate cheat code.
  18. ardichoke
    ardichoke
    Has anyone ever heard of this little trick called being yourself? It's like the ultimate cheat code.

    When I enter that cheat code I end up getting teleported to world -1, friend world.
  19. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx hahaha! this thread is going places!
  20. lunchb0x
    lunchb0x
    UPSLynx wrote:
    hahaha! this thread is going places!

    Except for with ardichoke. The thread thinks that it and ardichoke should see other people.
  21. ardichoke
    ardichoke /me slinks away, dejected. Plays L4D while drinking rum for the next 36 hours.
  22. primesuspect
    primesuspect
    Has anyone ever heard of this little trick called being yourself? It's like the ultimate cheat code.

    I disagree.

    Whenever I'm myself, I strike out. I think being yourself comes later, not when you're trying to get that first date.

    When I pretended to be a cocky, horny asshole who just wanted a hump-n-dump, well by gum, that's what I got. :rarr:
  23. Koreish
    Koreish This works perfectly for me. I don't even have to act I am in fact a cocky horny asshole.
  24. fatcat
    fatcat Point is, what works for one woman, ain't gonna work for the next.

    Just know WTF you're doing in bed and have alcohol :D
  25. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm
    fatcat wrote:
    Just know WTF you're doing in bed and have alcohol :D

    Balls. :(
  26. poofie
    poofie
    fatcat wrote:
    Just know WTF you're doing in bed and have alcohol :D

    this sentence was my entire first draft.
  27. Kwitko
    Kwitko There's a reason why there's an entire industry devoted to the art of the pickup. It's not because women are simple creatures, it's because they're the best psychological mindfuckers around. There are books, seminars, and websites devoted to disarming a woman's weapons. Read Roissy in DC for an example of how men game women.
  28. _k
    _k Whats a woman?
  29. Cliff_Forster
    Cliff_Forster
    I disagree.

    Whenever I'm myself, I strike out. I think being yourself comes later, not when you're trying to get that first date.

    When I pretended to be a cocky, horny asshole who just wanted a hump-n-dump, well by gum, that's what I got. :rarr:

    Well, if that is all your looking for, that is perfectly fine. It works on girls that are insecure in who they are and are looking for approval from a male partner,,, but..... Mature, grown adult women, honestly just want you to be honest, be yourself.

    Now, don't get me wrong, I don't dispute the importance of what poofie is saying here. Confidence in the sense that when you see someone you like, just walking up and saying so should not be that big of a deal. Hey, want to have a cup of coffee with me, hey want to get a burger, hey, I think you would look hot in a laser tag vest, all those apply. It does not mean it will land you a date, but what it does is improves your chances, you can't just stand on the sideline waiting for girls to jump on you, you have to man up, smile, and say, hey, I dig you, lets do something together. Its not nearly as big of a deal as people make it.
  30. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm
    hey, I think you would look hot in a laser tag vest

    This is all kinds of awesome.
  31. Winfrey
    Winfrey just the vest, all your clothes would interfere with my laser.
  32. pragtastic
    pragtastic
    you can't just stand on the sideline waiting for girls to jump on you

    Huh, I've had no problem with this tactic.
  33. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm It's the grip strength. Ladies can smell it for miles.

    Then they see the beard and the Gordon Freeman face and... well, it's all over from there.
  34. Annes
    Annes
    Snarkasm wrote:
    It's the grip strength. Ladies can smell it for miles.

    Then they see the beard and the Gordon Freeman face and... well, it's all over from there.

    It's so true! Really, I'm the victim in all of this. :mouldy:
  35. Kwitko
    Kwitko
    _k_ wrote:
    Whats a woman?

    Someone over the age of 18, therefore way too old for you.
  36. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm To imply that womanhood begins at a certain age is disingenuous at best and misleading at worst. It's a state of mind and a maturity level, not a number.

    .... therefore, way too old for _k_.
  37. Pouncingfox
    Pouncingfox Ugh. That Roissy in DC website hurts my brain.

    That's not how to date women- That's how to be a toolbox.

    My advice to all the youngins out there- be attractive, clever, and know your business in the sack. Women will come to you.

    But you don't have to take my word for it...
  38. Thrax
    Thrax Reading rainbow?
  39. Koreish
  40. _k
    _k Cause Knowledge is Power!
  41. Linc
    Linc
    pragtastic wrote:
    Huh, I've had no problem with this tactic.
    That's true, I watched that happen.
  42. poofie
    poofie
    My advice to all the youngins out there- be attractive, clever, and know your business in the sack. Women will come to you.

    this man probably knows what he's talking about. at least about the bit in the sack.
  43. primesuspect
    primesuspect I mean, that's pretty generic.

    "Be awesome, have money, be hot, be good at everything, and women will flock to you"

    Of course...

    the problem is; most normal people are working with some realistic limitations here, so advice for the "everyman" needs to be a bit more detailed than just "excel at everything" ;D
  44. ardichoke
    ardichoke The day that they come out with a GameFAQs for getting a girlfriend will be the day that I'm no longer single. Until then, that game has proved to have far too steep a learning curve for me.
  45. rolleggroll
    rolleggroll
    Has anyone ever heard of this little trick called being yourself? It's like the ultimate cheat code.

    I always thought that the ultimate cheat code was having millions and millions of $$$$. Who needs confidence, wit and charm when you can just throw $$$$ around and get ladies. Its guaranteed! I can't speak for what kind of ladies will come flocking to you though.
  46. fatcat
    fatcat haha, this thread is full of win, fail, and BBQ sauce.
  47. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx Gordon Freeman face!
  48. ardichoke
    ardichoke Ladies love the Free-Man.
  49. Koreish
    Koreish Just ask Alyx Vance.
  50. pseudonym
    pseudonym How to pick up women:

    Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A
  51. ardichoke
    ardichoke here I thought that playing with your joystick in public was frowned upon.
  52. QCH
    QCH
    ardichoke wrote:
    here I thought that playing with your joystick in public was frowned upon.
    If your doing it right, you're in a private place pulling those moves with a woman... silly ardichoke. :tongue:
  53. Starman
    Starman And make sure your controller is vibration-enabled.
  54. WagsFTW
    WagsFTW I think being honest, being yourself, having a sense of humor, smiling and looking her in the eye will win her over. These traits will catch her attention and get her intrigued about you. The small-talk conversation will begin, and the opportunity will arise. I definitely think some men make it way more complicated than it needs to be to ask a woman out. If she wants to mind-fuck you and give you doubt and lower your confidence level, she probably isn't even worth that date.

    Just be real. A nice smile always goes a long way.
  55. Koreish
  56. WagsFTW
  57. GnomeQueen
    GnomeQueen I would recommend not talking about how you hate yourself and you might want to commit suicide, leading her to have to cheer you up, and then asking her out to dinner.

    Just sayin'
  58. Marushka
    Marushka Hopefully you guys find this list helpful! I polled my roommates and friends to see what some of their favorite first dates were.

    (in no order)
    1) picnic
    2) beer-tasting at a brewery
    3) dim sum
    4) go play badminton / curling / random sport you both might be bad at but would be fun
    5) cheap tix to a soccer game
    6) free art walk on the first thurs of the month
    7) go on a walk and take pictures

    major things in common:

    -SHARED EXPERIENCE
    these allow you to have conversation, but also offer things to watch, laugh about, be adventurous with. sometimes "doing" in addition to "saying" tells you a ton about each other and offers a chance to build a shared experience.

    -FUN!
    You are suggesting something thoughtful and new. if you ask me out to one of these, i know im not in for an evening of "whats your favorite movie?"

    -CLEAR LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL
    if i know the date's only over when im bored or want to go home, then thats tough to get psyched for. knowing the outline of the evening really helps. it gives the option of absolutely loving it and making a plan to continue and go get coffee (or some doing it) or schedule something more intimate for next time.
  59. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx
    Marushka wrote:
    7) go on a walk and take pictures

    My (ex) roommate did this on a first date with a girl. They bought two disposable cameras, spent a night walking around the city and shooting pictures of each other doing fun/crazy things, got them developed and then swapped pictures.

    ...then they got married, and I got kicked out of the house, and now I live with my mom again.

    So... this one works.

    In all seriousness, they have record of their first date in a great visual format and featured a lot of the pictures at their wedding.
  60. Shorty
    Shorty Wow, how did I miss this thread? It's hilarious ;D

    What I have learned is this:

    No one is less human that you, which means they have at least one of the personal hangups, lumpy bits or stresses that you do. All you have to do is assess (quickly) what your opening tactic is ;)
  61. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc Yeah, I'm that guy who comes in at the tale end of the conversation and says "Hey wait, what did you say?"

    Anyway, don't ask her out for coffee. If I have to see one more guy fumbling around in speech and mannerisms while with a girl in a coffee shop...well, I will jump out the nearest window.
  62. BlackHawk
    BlackHawk
    I would recommend not talking about how you hate yourself and you might want to commit suicide, leading her to have to cheer you up, and then asking her out to dinner.

    Just sayin'
    There goes that plan. :grumble:
  63. UPSLynx
    UPSLynx
    Grimnoc wrote:
    Yeah, I'm that guy who comes in at the tale end of the conversation and says "Hey wait, what did you say?"

    Anyway, don't ask her out for coffee. If I have to see one more guy fumbling around in speech and mannerisms while with a girl in a coffee shop...well, I will jump out the nearest window.

    I can't wait to see the incredible fail of when you do this in a single story coffee shop.
  64. Starman
    Starman ^Unless there's an open manhole outside.
  65. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm Grimnoc knows all about open man-holes.
  66. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc
    UPSLynx wrote:
    I can't wait to see the incredible fail of when you do this in a single story coffee shop.

    Well, at least it will provide her with something more interesting to do (i.e. watch me fling myself out the window). :)
  67. Grimnoc
    Grimnoc
    Snarkasm wrote:
    Grimnoc knows all about open man-holes.

    Zing!
  68. GrayFox
    GrayFox Im surprised anyone would get worked up about asking a girl out.

    Obviously confidence is key.

    I just talk to them for a bit, normally become friends first to make sure there not batshit insane.

    Then I ask them out, you either get rejected (Its best to kill the friendship at that time). Or they they say yes.

    Unless I want to just bang a girl, I always become friends first.


    For the next article you should write one on breaking up with the girl.

    Its dam hard sometimes, Girl's are so dam emotional and clingy.

    edit: If your having trouble finding girls get a sports car. My other car is a 84 corvette before owning that I didn't have girls coming up and talking to me I went to them. The corvette is a pussy magnet in the 6 months I had it on the road so far ive had a ton of girls talk to me but ive been in a relationship the whole time Ive had it on the road tho.. :/ and didn't want to cheat on her.

    I don't know what it is about american sports car's, The sound of a small block chevy must make them horny or something.
  69. poofie
  70. fatcat
    fatcat I would comment on this.

    But now is not the time.

    Confidence is key. Be yourself. There is is a greater power in charge. Whatever that might be. You can win one day, and be last place the next day. No two women are the same.
    And trying to play the game like before is a waste of time.
    If you want to know the secret, PM me. As I've been there, done that.
  71. the_technocrat
    the_technocrat Go have a great shared experience doing something fun / out there / unique that you're into. Don't have anything like that? Figure yourself out, because that's likely your problem with the ladies anyway.
  72. patrickcabenjamin
    patrickcabenjamin Write("Will you go out with me")
    if (answer = "yes")
    {
    yay
    }

    if (answer = "no")
    {
    aww
    }
  73. Dunigan
    Dunigan First things first, be comfortable with who YOU are as a person. There was a time in my life when I was shy and didn't talk to many people because I felt that they wouldn't want to talk to me. I had no confidence in myself as a person, in my intelligence, or my looks. Then one day it hit me. I am what I am. Once I accept that, and embrace it, others will too.

    So when you see my walking around with that "shit eatin grin" on my face, its not because I am cocky. Its because I am comfortable. I have accepted who I am, and I embrace every minute of it.

    This has opened a whole new world to me when it comes to meeting new friends, and especially with the ladies.
  74. poofie
    poofie
    Dunigan wrote:
    First things first, be comfortable with who YOU are as a person. There was a time in my life when I was shy and didn't talk to many people because I felt that they wouldn't want to talk to me. I had no confidence in myself as a person, in my intelligence, or my looks. Then one day it hit me. I am what I am. Once I accept that, and embrace it, others will too.

    So when you see my walking around with that "shit eatin grin" on my face, its not because I am cocky. Its because I am comfortable. I have accepted who I am, and I embrace every minute of it.

    This has opened a whole new world to me when it comes to meeting new friends, and especially with the ladies.

    i gotta say, the ladies loved Dunigan at ICOK! he was dancing and joking and generally a lot of fun.

    also, you gotta give props to a man who is willing to wear tights and no pants. just sayin'.
  75. MAGIC
    MAGIC Yeah, and if all else fails; wrestle another guy, shirtless and in a drunken stuper, on the floor of ICHQ until you break your knee or are bleeding from your chest.

    Gets um every time.
  76. Ryder
    Ryder
    MAGIC wrote:
    Yeah, and if all else fails; wrestle another guy, shirtless and in a drunken stuper, on the floor of ICHQ until you break your knee or are bleeding from your chest.

    Gets um every time.
    ^5 :rockon:
  77. Thrax
    Thrax
    MAGIC wrote:
    Yeah, and if all else fails; wrestle another guy, shirtless and in a drunken stuper, on the floor of ICHQ until you break your knee or are bleeding from your chest.

    Gets um every time.

    QFE.
  78. Preacher
    Preacher Poof,
    your guide is defective. I asked my wife out using your recommendations and she turned me down. I would like a refund please.

    Instead, I took Greyfox's recommendation, revved my Ford V8 in the driveway, and got In like Flynn:
    GrayFox wrote:
    ....The corvette is a pussy magnet in the 6 months I had it on the road so far ive had a ton of girls talk to me but ive been in a relationship the whole time Ive had it on the road tho.. :/ and didn't want to cheat on her.

    I don't know what it is about american sports car's, The sound of a small block chevy must make them horny or something.
  79. fatcat
    fatcat Preacher is my hero

    when I grow up....
  80. poofie
    poofie
    Preacher wrote:
    Poof,
    your guide is defective. I asked my wife out using your recommendations and she turned me down. I would like a refund please.

    Instead, I took Greyfox's recommendation, revved my Ford V8 in the driveway, and got In like Flynn:

    your wife must be defective.

    i kid, i kid. Mrs. Preacher is an awesome woman and a gracious hostess, and i hope to be even a fraction as cool as her some day <3
  81. Preacher
    Preacher
    poofie wrote:
    your wife must be defective.
    Nope. That's me. I like to live in my own little land of misfit toys.
    poofie wrote:
    i kid, i kid. Mrs. Preacher is an awesome woman and a gracious hostess, and i hope to be even a fraction as cool as her some day <3
    I kid as well, but I will second your awesomeness, graciousness, and coolness recommendations. Any woman that puts up with a military man for a decade and a half has the patience of Job, the heart of a lion, and the toughness of Chuck Norris.
  82. Michael This is typical advice from a woman: "just ask her out, no big thing." Except it is a big thing. Know who makes it a big thing? WOMEN. Can't tell you how many times I've tried talking to a woman just to have her either get a deer-in-the-headlights look or cop some kind of 'yeah, right' attitude. Gets tiring beating our heads against the wall after a while, ladies. We're not going to propose to you just because we ask you how you're doing.

    My advice to the dudes out there: worry about yourself first and knock women down from their collective pedestal. Being someone you like, someone who is happy with himself is the best way to find a woman who will like you too.
  83. cola
    cola Dude, I recently figured out confidence for myself, and damn. That plus my swimmer's body and badass personality makes for a deadly combo XD
  84. Annes
    Annes Cola, I'm pretty sure you just need to talk to a lady for about 10 seconds and she would say "yes" to a date with you.
  85. GnomeQueen
    GnomeQueen
    Annes wrote:
    Cola, I'm pretty sure you just need to talk to a lady for about 10 seconds and she would say "yes" to a date with you.

    5 seconds if bagfoot mckenzie is involved.
  86. cola
    cola What if the two of us were working together?
  87. GnomeQueen
    GnomeQueen
    cola wrote:
    What if the two of us were working together?

    Negative time. When are you coming to an IC event, Cola honey?
  88. cola
    cola Idk, probably not anytime soon :(
  89. Annes
    Annes
    cola wrote:
    Idk, probably not anytime soon :(

    And why the hell not? I have not heard this Bagfoot person talk. Someone grab an audio clip, for my satisfaction. kthx.
  90. Linc
    Linc
    Annes wrote:
    I have not heard this Bagfoot person talk.
    Then you are missing an entire section of the Icrontic universe.
  91. BuddyJ
    BuddyJ Bagfoot once drank a bottle of whiskey just to see what was on the other side. Then he punched a nun for good luck.
  92. GnomeQueen
    GnomeQueen
    Lincoln wrote:
    Then you are missing an entire section of the Icrontic universe.

    QFT
  93. Annes
    Annes I want to meet this dude! Bring him to me!
  94. primesuspect
    primesuspect Bagfoot McKenzie only fights like a man. One time he kicked a puppy into a lion's den just so he could rescue the puppy.
  95. Snarkasm
    Snarkasm Bagfoot's liver is stronger than Chuck Norris' beard, fists, and roundhouse-dealing legs and feet combined - and it has to be.
  96. floppybootstomp
    floppybootstomp
    poofie wrote:
    OMG THERES GIRLS ON THE INTERNET!?

    Apparently so.

    Frightening eh?

    Of course, one could always try that tried and tested line 'You up for a shag then darling?' but I should warn you folk that this approach often results in a trip to your local ER for a six hour wait and several stitches.

    Seriously, just be yourself. Either the chemistry's there or it isn't.
  97. cola
    cola If we're going for Austin Powers lines, just ask her: "Do I make you randy baby?"
  98. Kether How about "Hey baby! my D*ck died! Can I bury it in your @$$?!"

    Never worked, never will.... but I'll keep yelling it.
  99. Kether It sounds ridiculous I know but what worked for me was playing the banjo. No kidding.
  100. poofie
    poofie banjos are awesome. but not nearly as awesome as accordions.
    3469745050_d3b52dbba7_o.jpg
    <3

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