The Digital Camera example thread

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  • HawkHawk Fla Icrontian
    edited August 2003
    Prime, Good lookin kids there man! Looks like they had fun with crayolas on the wall! I like that Kodak Easyshare. Nice all the way around for that price. And it's in my price range. Cute grandkid too bothered! Thnx all, for your input here. I'll be checkin back for more good stuff on cameras. :cool:
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited October 2003
    Olympus D-390
    2.0MP
    Fixed lens, 2.5X digital zoom
    Also takes sephia and B&W pictures.
    $199.99CDN

    For the price, this is an excellent beginners camera for those who don't want to spend much to get into digital photography. The pictures comes out nice and sharp. Most of the time, the pictures come out cold (bluish hue), though it can be corrected in Rhotoshop. Hey, what can you expect from a cheap camera and most people wouldn't care unless they are really picky or professionals. For their browsing software, don't bother to install it. It can't compare to what Canon offers. Just let win2k or winxp to recognize the camera and use it like a flash drive to get your pictures.

    All pictures are uncorrected, only resized.
    File info
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    P9170083.JPG
    Camera Model Name
    C150,D390
    Shooting Date/Time
    17/09/2003 3:15:25 PM
    Tv( Shutter Speed )
    1/196
    Av( Aperture Value )
    2.8
    Exposure Compensation
    0
    ISO Speed
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    Image Size
    1600x1200
    Flash
    Off
    File Size
    351KB
    Owner's Name
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited October 2003
    For this picture, you can see that it can out cold. Notice the bluish hue on my hood which is gold colour.

    File Name
    P1010073.JPG
    Camera Model Name
    C150,D390
    Shooting Date/Time
    01/01/2003 12:02:26 AM
    Tv( Shutter Speed )
    1/172
    Av( Aperture Value )
    7.0
    Exposure Compensation
    0
    ISO Speed
    100
    Image Size
    1600x1200
    Flash
    Off
    File Size
    381KB
    Owner's Name
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Yeah, that's my only complaint about my Kodak as well -- look at the letters on the stop sign and you can see that it tends towards blue. My camera does the same thing.
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited October 2003
    What can you expect from a cheap camera. Looking at the lens, it only has a blue coating. Comparing it to my Canon, it has a green, magenta, and yellow on multiple lenses. So, it seems to be an issue with just using 1 coating on the lens.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited October 2003
    Yeah but mine was ~$350 ... I don't consider that cheap... ;)
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited October 2003
    I'd expect a bit more for a $350 camera. What coatings are on your lens? Look at your lens with a light source (desk lamp) near you.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    got this for christmas last year, great little camera, I love it! takes beautiful pics!

    HP Photosmart 320

    Product type Digital camera
    Digital zoom 4
    Effective sensor resolution 2,062,500 pixels
    Gross sensor resolution 2,141,928 pixels
    Optical sensor size 1/2.7"
    Optical sensor type CCD
    Light sensitivity ISO 100
    Still image format JPEG
    Digital video format AVI
    Min shutter speed 1/1.5 sec
    Max shutter speed 1/1000 sec
    Shooting modes Frame movie mode
    White balance Automatic
    Lens aperture F/4.5
    Focal length (35mm camera equivalent) 38mm
    Min focal length 5.9 mm
    Focus adjustment Focus free
    Min focus range 29.5 in
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  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    #2
    9.jpg 441.1K
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Are they grainy because of high jpeg compression? Or are these untouched?
  • edited November 2003
    This is a pic I took with my Toshiba PDR 3300 3.2 mega pixel camera with everything at auto using the remote it came with.
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    primesuspect had this to say
    Are they grainy because of high jpeg compression? Or are these untouched?

    these are unmodified....are they grainy? :(


    EDIT: ya now I see it in the sky, hmm, wtf.....the native picture format of the camera is JPEG (or so it says in the specs)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    here's another pic from when I first got my 9700 Pro and I was trying to pimp it everywhere, doesnt look as grainy..
    14.jpg 60.6K
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited November 2003
    I haven't seen it mentioned here yet: DO NOT BUY VIVITAR. I repeat: DO NOT BUY VIVITAR.

    I have had nothing but trouble from my vivitar. It takes HORRIBLE pictures. It eats batteries like they're going out of style. It's VERY picky about media brand. It doesn't seem to support the full capacity of my memory: 256MB. All in all, this vivitar is a pile of crap. Perhaps I just got the lamest model they have, but It isn't like the camera was cheap or anything.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Thanks, A2J -- that's exactly what I was hoping to achieve with this thread --- when you're gonna spend $200 + for a piece of gear, you want it to actually work... :)
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited November 2003
    Cam, I hate to crap on your camera, but those pictures look awfully noisy.. Are those taken at the highest quality level?
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited November 2003
    Pleased I could oblige.

    I'd hate for someone to waste money on a vivitar like I did. Let my lesson be a lesson for all.
    primesuspect had this to say
    Thanks, A2J -- that's exactly what I was hoping to achieve with this thread --- when you're gonna spend $200 + for a piece of gear, you want it to actually work... :)
  • mcwcmcwc Vancouver, BC Member
    edited November 2003
    My dad was about to buy a Vivitar but he chose not to and got an Olympus. Lucky he didn't get a Vivitar. There aren't even any reviews of a Vivitar digital camera or any sample pictures.

    //Edit: Mind posting a sample picture, settings, and camera model a2j?
  • a2jfreaka2jfreak Houston, TX Member
    edited November 2003
    The pictures of my truck in the vehicle thread (can't recall the actual thread title) is taken w/ the camera. Those pictures don't look "bad" but they aren't great and the hassle of getting the camera to work is just horrible. Sometimes it's as if it freezes during the "boot-up" process. It won't extend the lens, it just freezes. No way to unfreeze it except take the batteries out, which still doesn't work but about 15% of the time. Then I have to reset the date on the stupid thing so most of my images all have the same date. It's just a piece of crap. I'll get the model # for you later on . . . it's in my truck ATM and I don't feel like walking outside to get it. :)
  • CammanCamman NEW! England Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    primesuspect had this to say
    Cam, I hate to crap on your camera, but those pictures look awfully noisy.. Are those taken at the highest quality level?

    yeah, they're taken at the highest quality setting.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    ...resolution reduced 50% from original and then image adjusted to grayscale ...I don't think this camera takes b&w unless I'm missing something.
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    thanksgiving 2003 orange beach alabama
  • csimoncsimon Acadiana Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    MJ consider yourself :Pwned:
  • ishiiiishiii Cold lake, AB, CA
    edited December 2003
    Hey guys
    Anyone got a Fujifilm FinePix S5000 Z ???
    I am thinking of sellen the kodak dx4330, and moven up.
    They both have the same MP but the fuji has 10X optical and more manual control.
    Comments, suggestions??
  • ketoketo Occupied. Or is it preoccupied? Icrontian
    edited December 2003
    I have a Canon A70. I'm not much of a photog but it has lots of user adjustable options and settings and is widely considered to be the best in its price range, based on the reading I've done. Looks like it's a few bux more (~$50US + on Yahoo shopping, ymmv) than the Fuji so it may not work for ya but just thot I'd throw in a recommendation on the Canon. There are a kazillion reviews out there on the Canon if you want to do some comparison reading.
  • ishiiiishiii Cold lake, AB, CA
    edited January 2004
    Well I sold the old kodak dx4330 3mp camera.
    Just got a olympus C-750. 4mp and 10X optical zoom. Great camera so far. You can ajust every setting which is cool, still tryen to learn it after only haven it for a few days.
    Here are some pics from day one:
    Budest temple and beach pics. The swaztica like image is actually a buddist symbol and is reverse of the nazi one.
    All I did was resize them...................................
  • ishiiiishiii Cold lake, AB, CA
    edited January 2004
    Last night I took the new cam to the beach and tryed to get some night shots.
    Did some playing with the settings.
    Which of the three pics below looks the best????
    Forget the photgraphy skills or what is in the pic, both kinda suck.
    Or do all three look like crappy night pics??? There are still a few settings I can tweak in attempting good night pics.
  • ishiiiishiii Cold lake, AB, CA
    edited January 2004
    Guys;
    I would really like some feed back on them three night pics.
    I personally think number 2 is the best of the three.
  • primesuspectprimesuspect Beepin n' Boopin Detroit, MI Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    Number 1 is decent, it has a more artistic quality to it, but #2 is more authentic-feeling, I guess. They're both good (3 is too dull), but good for different purposes, I guess is what I'm trying to say.. ;)
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Geeky, in my own way Naples, FL Icrontian
    edited January 2004
    ishiii, the first is just slightly overexposed for the bright areas, but shows the tent nicely. The third is way underexposed, not enough time for exposure to CCD. The second is nice for the buildings, but the foreground is underexposed.

    See if your camera has a multi-exposure sense mode, ok??? It looks like a center exposure guess was used based on a single brightness metering in auto mode, and you played with F stops. The darker the place in middle of shot,the longer the camera exposes the CCD and you get washing like in photo on left side, assume that to be photo one. Let the silly thing use the flash with center of focus on a white object, and it will underexpose the rest. If the tent had a flashlight in it and you focused on the bright tent, you would get the metering adjusted for that glow adn brightness level, and with a scattered multi-area brightness sense you would get a more average level.

    Night panoramics are a PITA to get right, and actually I woudl edit this pic with Paint Shop Pro and impse and alpha mask on it to dim out the brights in photo one which has the most workable data. Try smaller things, closer shots. Focus unless inifinite will be harder at night, the digitals use a distance reflectivity measure for objects to focus and wioth scattered dim objects it is hard for the cam to even focus.

    The only cams I know that are good at all for flashless night panoramas are those with an ASA equiv rating of 400 and the only ones I know that come close are in the $900.00 and up range (USD)-- they are SLR digicams, worked with filters off, bare lense. Work with mid-lit and brighter lit shots, you will get better focus and metering and have less complex editing ahead of you. Cheaper cams are typically ASA 100, and unless you have tripod and can let them expose for several seconds to minutes depending on sensitivity, you will get a mess and night focus will be off unless you can fully manually focus the thing (SLR style focusing also).

    In general I like the building lightings in 2(less splash from overexposure) and the foreground in 1 with 3 way underexposed all over imho. But that has to be imho. What you see as professional digital cam art is rarely raw pics, it oftne has been editted a lot or is two photos joined-- foreqround from 1 with the tree and city skyscrapers of 2 would be best imho.

    You asked for opinion, there is my nickel's worth.

    John.
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