to get more resources.
you start with small resource income, so to build things faster make an army as fast as possible.
when you started earlier you had to make a big cranny and avoid too many troops as larger neighbours would take you out.
but there ARE no large neighbours, everything is from scratch, so if you make yourself the alpha-male of sorts in your area you will flourish, living off their resources and your own.
in s5 i managed to build an army off the resources i took in raids, not bothering to level up the resource fields (except wheat) and then from that larger army, i raid more resources at once from several villages simultaneously, and so on.
i'm doing well i think, but i'd do better if it wasn't for another large alliance member in my 7x7, in another time zone so he always farms most surrounding people before i wake up...
It's true, but you're saying it like you're restricted to one village. Start early, get an eye in, build a new village cluster where ever you want, problem solved
to get more resources.
you start with small resource income, so to build things faster make an army as fast as possible.
when you started earlier you had to make a big cranny and avoid too many troops as larger neighbours would take you out.
but there ARE no large neighbours, everything is from scratch, so if you make yourself the alpha-male of sorts in your area you will flourish, living off their resources and your own.
in s5 i managed to build an army off the resources i took in raids, not bothering to level up the resource fields (except wheat) and then from that larger army, i raid more resources at once from several villages simultaneously, and so on.
i'm doing well i think, but i'd do better if it wasn't for another large alliance member in my 7x7, in another time zone so he always farms most surrounding people before i wake up...
Edit - Lambo and SillyViking will most definitely have to weigh in their opinon on this. As I see this though, SV and Lambo will have the advantage of being able to rob people blind as they sleep and have the benefit of the majority of the Western players being on guard when the majority of players is alive and awake and they themselves are away.
It's true, but you're saying it like you're restricted to one village. Start early, get an eye in, build a new village cluster where ever you want, problem solved
it takes a while and a lot of resources to make a second village, it would
it looks like we're playing US im gonna start 13 hours into it what do ya think?
for me, uk server is the best choice.
in two weeks when it restarts i'll have done all or all but one exam, travian is too much of a distraction in this time.
plus, the .com servers are INTERNATIONAL servers, not the US server.
they're full of the elite players, russians and germans for example, who've had their servers the longest and therefore more practice and more awesome players.
Wow....alrighty then, back to square one!!!! So to avoid conflict and to make it easier for our overseas brethren....lets do the UK one...
Personally I could care less about the Russians and the Germans and how good or bad someone is...only makes game more interesting, but if people cant get online and/or it interferes with school or work for some, then maybe we should try and accomodate them and wait a little longer so that all are happy....
I think we SHOULD join at about the same time (within a few minutes). I want to be protected by my friends and not have to send troops an hour away. We join together, we have a better chance to survive. Raiding will be more difficult but maybe we can join in clumps... 3 or 4 at a time over the course of a day.
I agree....farming is important, but its only a short term fix and Im not worried about being the alpha male in the area....I like being the silent but deadly one...:bigggrin:!!!
A compromise of a sort would be good! I for one don't want an entire 7x7 of you guys, but if we could all be located within a few of hours praet march of each other it'd make co-odrinating defense much easier! It'd also save us on upgrading Marketplaces and Trade Offices, for a while at least and make effective sitting much easier.
It would decrease our ability to raid in the short term, but less than it would increase our ability to defend, guess it really depends on what your strategy/tribe choice would be - teuton's need to raid a lot earlier and more than a gaul who can survive being raided!
Perhaps we arrange a 2 hour period in which we all join 36hours after the server starts to avoid the extreme players (I'm guessing at numbers!). That way we "should" be located close enough to one another to help each other out, but far enough away we don't end up simming it!
Oh, and yes to ukx from me..... I defintely need a couple of weeks to get the rest of my life together!
Here's the thing... the IC alliance was founded by IC folk that found neighbors that could help us. The Raiding slowed down because of that. I didn't raid much and if we coordinate our farms, we can all raid a bit. I did almost NO farming at Aries until late in the game due to GS. Chronos farmed 3 or 4 but Fourstar had most of the stuff. I did OK... right?
Also... I would recommend that we start a thread in the Travian Forums to recruit folk.
I suggest we join in clumps. 3 or 4 at a time. That would give us a few friends close but not everyone close. I've counted 9 players. Three groups of 3 could join together. One major player and two minor players. Grywlf and I and one other join at the same time (to the minute if possible). The rest do the same within an hour or two.
Also... those that join right away WILL be hardcore. We might need to defend ourselves right off the bat. We need to live long enough to move out further and setup an outpost (but not so far out as before). I REALLY worry about getting a Myth or LEG guy right next to one of us and not be able to get troops there fast enough. If we have 3 or 4 villages all within a few minutes of each other, we'd have some security.
Man... "Q" cannot let go of the power stick..... grrrrrrrr. Already getting dragged in.
So maybe 3 at "X o'clock", 3 at "X+1 o'clock" and 3 at "X+3 o'clock"?
I DEFINTELY do not plan on pre-registering or joining in the first day! Read once on the main forum you should leave it a week for a normal server, I'm thinking minimum 36hours from the start for the speed one!
As for farming, I didn't raid anyone for the first month but for the last month I found 7 inactives/semi-inactives and raided each 3 times a day! I joined IC with about a month to go and went from 35(ish) in the Alliance to 5th- but it was FAR too labour intensive- I was practically sleeping with my laptop !
Here's the thing... the IC alliance was founded by IC folk that found neighbors that could help us. The Raiding slowed down because of that. I didn't raid much and if we coordinate our farms, we can all raid a bit. I did almost NO farming at Aries until late in the game due to GS. Chronos farmed 3 or 4 but Fourstar had most of the stuff. I did OK... right?
Also... I would recommend that we start a thread in the Travian Forums to recruit folk.
I suggest we join in clumps. 3 or 4 at a time. That would give us a few friends close but not everyone close. I've counted 9 players. Three groups of 3 could join together. One major player and two minor players. Grywlf and I and one other join at the same time (to the minute if possible). The rest do the same within an hour or two.
Also... those that join right away WILL be hardcore. We might need to defend ourselves right off the bat. We need to live long enough to move out further and setup an outpost (but not so far out as before). I REALLY worry about getting a Myth or LEG guy right next to one of us and not be able to get troops there fast enough. If we have 3 or 4 villages all within a few minutes of each other, we'd have some security.
Man... "Q" cannot let go of the power stick..... grrrrrrrr. Already getting dragged in.
i agree with you to an extent, but you lot close together when you founded the alliance was good then, because it was the middle of the server, when people had already built up.
you don't farm as much initially if you start halfway, unless you know how to hide your troops effectively (well timed long overnight raids...)
i'm not objecting to anything of what you're doing, but i personally just want to be able to turn into an offensive giant, and to do that i'll need ample farms.
Is there any advantage in having the groups spilt by tribe?
One less active player starting as Gauls, and providing Phalanx right from the start, giving an active/farmer/teuton defense for his macemen overnight behind the roman players wall, while the Roman builds infrastruture?
Lambo... good idea. I am torn between Gaul or Teutons. I was just getting the hang of the tuets but they are a bit expensive to defend... really need paladins to defend against most attacks since horse troops are less frequent than foot soldiers.
Yeah, I tried teuts for a week on .usx, to see which I prefered. I'd build up some macemen, raid, send them on an 8hour trip when I went to bed, sleep in 20mins, and they'd be gone!!! Either that or I'd get up early and be bored waiting for their return!
Muffin, how far away are you thinking? To my mind, if you're 10 fields in all directions from the nearest "IC-raider", you'll have plenty of targets while still being within reach if you need defending!
As leader, we should probably each supply you with a little resources to build an embassy and if you're going uber-aggressive, maybe a little res for siege weapons as an Alliance "hit-man"!
it would be good if a gaul and a teut paired up the gaul will be defense and infrastructure and the teut will be raiding. at night the teut send his macemen away to the gaul for protection.
Lambo... good idea. I am torn between Gaul or Teutons. I was just getting the hang of the tuets but they are a bit expensive to defend... really need paladins to defend against most attacks since horse troops are less frequent than foot soldiers.
I am leaning towards Gual... Army of phalanx....
Since I will be sitting for you, I'll go with you Q in the same area and whatever you decide on race I can go opposite if that is indeed the plan....I was thinking of Going Roman this time, I was Gaul last time....!!!
I dont wanna start too late either, that just gives the hardcore players a chance to get ahead and ready to farm right when our delay is up. Groups of three is also a good idea. keeps some of us close and some far enough so we arent bunched together right from start.
Now we need to work on dates and time. Are we all gonna set the time zone the same so we will always be on same page with everything?
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you start with small resource income, so to build things faster make an army as fast as possible.
when you started earlier you had to make a big cranny and avoid too many troops as larger neighbours would take you out.
but there ARE no large neighbours, everything is from scratch, so if you make yourself the alpha-male of sorts in your area you will flourish, living off their resources and your own.
in s5 i managed to build an army off the resources i took in raids, not bothering to level up the resource fields (except wheat) and then from that larger army, i raid more resources at once from several villages simultaneously, and so on.
i'm doing well i think, but i'd do better if it wasn't for another large alliance member in my 7x7, in another time zone so he always farms most surrounding people before i wake up...
that too.
i'm going in alone in the beginning.
I see.....hmmmmmm!!!!
I would consider this, yes is my vote.
Edit - Lambo and SillyViking will most definitely have to weigh in their opinon on this. As I see this though, SV and Lambo will have the advantage of being able to rob people blind as they sleep and have the benefit of the majority of the Western players being on guard when the majority of players is alive and awake and they themselves are away.
TF2, yeah baby!
it takes a while and a lot of resources to make a second village, it would
for me, uk server is the best choice.
in two weeks when it restarts i'll have done all or all but one exam, travian is too much of a distraction in this time.
plus, the .com servers are INTERNATIONAL servers, not the US server.
they're full of the elite players, russians and germans for example, who've had their servers the longest and therefore more practice and more awesome players.
this is US:
http://www.travian.us/
which has a speed server starting in one week.
Personally I could care less about the Russians and the Germans and how good or bad someone is...only makes game more interesting, but if people cant get online and/or it interferes with school or work for some, then maybe we should try and accomodate them and wait a little longer so that all are happy....
It would decrease our ability to raid in the short term, but less than it would increase our ability to defend, guess it really depends on what your strategy/tribe choice would be - teuton's need to raid a lot earlier and more than a gaul who can survive being raided!
Perhaps we arrange a 2 hour period in which we all join 36hours after the server starts to avoid the extreme players (I'm guessing at numbers!). That way we "should" be located close enough to one another to help each other out, but far enough away we don't end up simming it!
Oh, and yes to ukx from me..... I defintely need a couple of weeks to get the rest of my life together!
Also... I would recommend that we start a thread in the Travian Forums to recruit folk.
I suggest we join in clumps. 3 or 4 at a time. That would give us a few friends close but not everyone close. I've counted 9 players. Three groups of 3 could join together. One major player and two minor players. Grywlf and I and one other join at the same time (to the minute if possible). The rest do the same within an hour or two.
Also... those that join right away WILL be hardcore. We might need to defend ourselves right off the bat. We need to live long enough to move out further and setup an outpost (but not so far out as before). I REALLY worry about getting a Myth or LEG guy right next to one of us and not be able to get troops there fast enough. If we have 3 or 4 villages all within a few minutes of each other, we'd have some security.
Man... "Q" cannot let go of the power stick..... grrrrrrrr. Already getting dragged in.
I DEFINTELY do not plan on pre-registering or joining in the first day! Read once on the main forum you should leave it a week for a normal server, I'm thinking minimum 36hours from the start for the speed one!
As for farming, I didn't raid anyone for the first month but for the last month I found 7 inactives/semi-inactives and raided each 3 times a day! I joined IC with about a month to go and went from 35(ish) in the Alliance to 5th- but it was FAR too labour intensive- I was practically sleeping with my laptop
Edit: tttooommm beat me to it
Sweet... that's 10 players!!
i agree with you to an extent, but you lot close together when you founded the alliance was good then, because it was the middle of the server, when people had already built up.
you don't farm as much initially if you start halfway, unless you know how to hide your troops effectively (well timed long overnight raids...)
i'm not objecting to anything of what you're doing, but i personally just want to be able to turn into an offensive giant, and to do that i'll need ample farms.
One less active player starting as Gauls, and providing Phalanx right from the start, giving an active/farmer/teuton defense for his macemen overnight behind the roman players wall, while the Roman builds infrastruture?
I am leaning towards Gual... Army of phalanx....
Muffin, how far away are you thinking? To my mind, if you're 10 fields in all directions from the nearest "IC-raider", you'll have plenty of targets while still being within reach if you need defending!
As leader, we should probably each supply you with a little resources to build an embassy and if you're going uber-aggressive, maybe a little res for siege weapons as an Alliance "hit-man"!
Since I will be sitting for you, I'll go with you Q in the same area and whatever you decide on race I can go opposite if that is indeed the plan....I was thinking of Going Roman this time, I was Gaul last time....
I dont wanna start too late either, that just gives the hardcore players a chance to get ahead and ready to farm right when our delay is up. Groups of three is also a good idea. keeps some of us close and some far enough so we arent bunched together right from start.
Now we need to work on dates and time. Are we all gonna set the time zone the same so we will always be on same page with everything?