Good stuff Keto, not sure I'll have time tomorrow but I'll try and put a drum track to something of yours, no promises though, the Sens play tomorrow night.
OK, revised Swing Metal Posted, w/wo drum trax. I need some detailed constructive criticism here. This is the second of a four stage process. I just did one long take of changes just to get some ideas for structure. There is a tone change that is glaring that again is to get some opinions from. So, This is what I am looking for:
Tone opinions
Change opinions
Length opinions
Of course, the track will be cleaned up and perfected once I can get some idea of how we all think it should sound. This is a group effort after all. Lets also post it all here instead of PM so we all know what we all are thinking.
Justin - Both tones are very usable. Maybe the brighter one for emphasis during certain passages or changes? I like the 'roar' the brighter one gives when you let a chord sustain.
The section on the with drums track from about 2:45 to 3:20 or so would probably sound better to me over top of a rhythm track, ie., it sounds like a series of somewhat unconnected fills. But the changes are good.
Could you put up some notes with the chord progressions, save me (us) going thru and figuring it all out? Especially the 7th or suspended or whatever chords you throw in there, my ear isn't good enough to decipher those.
Just listened to the 'drums version' of Scuff's blues for the first time. Nice job Terry, very restrained, I like how you backed right off during the change. It gives the song some air or breathing room.
Having said that, if you get a chance to go over my stuff, especially 'punketo', feel free to do your best Keith Moon or whatever - noisy and full are the order of the day there.
Justin - The main riff - I like the original a little more, however no reason you couldn't add that change for dynamic's once each time around and leave the rest as it was. If you don't know what I mean, I'll fire up cooledit and isolate the riff and upload it to the server.
I like some of the new stuff you added, it's hard for me to articulate what parts exactly but I'll make some time to extract which ones and again, upload them to the server for you.
My next toy, the purchase has been cleared with the gf and I'm as good as owning them. I've been having a hardtime juggling my band, laying beats behind our stuff and getting quality practice time in which I need but this is my answer to that.
I had the opportunity to try a set of these out the other night and it floored me, I always stayed away from the idea of owning electronic drums but not anymore. I was blown away at how easily you can make these things sound like acoustic drums and am thoroughly sold on these. No longer will I have problems getting practice time since I can play them literally 24/7 at home by using the headphones. Furthermore, they will greatly enhance my contribution to this project as I can do it all from home". I'm so excited I could pee myself.
It's hard to explain, but it has to do with the wiring in my house, the network cabling setup that I have, the distance of the retail store that has the right cables I need for my mixer, and my wife's work schedule. Throw a little bit of "not enough time" and "two boys who want to play with dad all the time" and you have a recipe for "Delta 44 sitting there just itching to get used"....
Just glad to hear you got it, Prime. I can definately understand the kids thing, mine has his own keyboard he drags around the hose and he likes to sit in the chair next to me and type with daddy.
I myself have a new addition to the musical family, New Les Paul!!! Now maybe I can get past that annoying lack of tone that has plauged me for so long. I am going to the site to look for any mods you might have posted Bonz, and if you can give me an idea of the song you are talking about and which section/time it is in, I will be happy to elaborate and play with it. Glad to hear about your drums man, those should be sweet!!! We're on our way!!!
uploaded FirstAttempt2 .mp3 did it as mp3 cause the .wav is 48MB but if anyone wants it to mess around with, let me know and I'll upload it.
The drums are the built in set in the BR864, not terrible tho I left them too high in the mix in this case. The mp3 shows in Media Player as 3:41 when in fact it's over 4:30, not sure what's up with that.
Well, I haven't recorded since the SM Anniversary Song. Been busy coaching 2 teams worth of baseball. Finished with that next weekend, then should be able to spend more time at it. Anyone else?
I'm still in, finally recovered, now just making up lost time with my son. I guess it is easier to be a rock star on the road huh? Guitar Port on order, should arrive this week, then direct, non-soundcard limited tone should become readily available, I will re-re-re-record everything so it sounds decent and get it all reposted ASAP. Prime, how 'bout you?
Just an idea, but, maybe we could look for a bass player outside of this site. I know of a few decent music forums where we could find such a person. Or should we keep this totally pure with only SM members participating?
Side note - I just paid off my brand new Ludwig kit. They are 100% better then my previous drums and sound great recorded.
Take the lead Bonz, if you can put together a track or two of drums and bass, I think I could probably handle the rest... OF course, all comers are welcome.
I'll revive the thread, as it is most intriguing. I'd like to hear and if need be (or good ideas occur), contribute (electric/calssical guitar) to the stuff!
As for software, I'd warmly recommend Samplitude. It is trickier than cooledit or even cubase: the mother of stupid recording soft I'd say: maybe I just couldn't become friends with it, and it refused to do what I wanted, or it didn't like my old cel466 nor its sh***y soundcard, I wouldn't know. I have since refused to try it again.
But with the mix of Samplitude, Drumagog and Reason, you probably get the most out of the stuff (with reasonable skills and hearing, that is). At least this is my personal preference and it was recommended by several good sound engineers, who use those in their studios.
This is my first post as I only discovered this site today though it has been most useful already. I'm intrigued to know if this thread is still alive and kicking or not. I’m guessing, looking at the frequency of posts it may have died but I'm still interested. I have just finished a degree in Music Tech and Digital Multimedia and Have a limited amount of studio experience. My background is predominantly dance music (Funky House, Electo-funk and breakbeat, with a bit of garage and trance thrown in) though I do also play lead guitar reasonably well.
I haven’t read the whole thread as to read the whole lot would take days but if there is anything I can do help I'd be interested. My software knowledge is Cubase, Logic, Reason, Cooledit and I have a set of studio amp and decent speakers for mastering
That’s my life story if any one wants to throw stuff my way then feel free to PM or Email
Well, I know that we haven't touched on it in a while but, the idea still lives on. I personally have been to caught up in life to even think about playing, let alone writing and recording. Kinda sad really, that used to be my life. However, if I could ever take an hour or two out of my day to setup the studio in the new house, I think I could drop a few thngs on ya! Shoot me a PM and we can exchange email addys and swap some tunes. I have a few things that could use an outside touch. We did have an FTP site way back when but I imagine that it has since fallen by the wayside (Status, Prime?). Hit me up and drop somethin on me!
Il equally revive it a little seeing as I have to keep myself super busy (although the new short-media is doing that enough already!) but.. It'd sure be nice to do something ( I do own 7 guitars now )
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I can't tell if that was a compliment or a rip, but it doesn't matter because you are one of the most helpful people out there
Rip: Raggin' on my good friend TeaBronze for that extraneous "r"!
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Good stuff Keto, not sure I'll have time tomorrow but I'll try and put a drum track to something of yours, no promises though, the Sens play tomorrow night.
Tone opinions
Change opinions
Length opinions
Of course, the track will be cleaned up and perfected once I can get some idea of how we all think it should sound. This is a group effort after all. Lets also post it all here instead of PM so we all know what we all are thinking.
The section on the with drums track from about 2:45 to 3:20 or so would probably sound better to me over top of a rhythm track, ie., it sounds like a series of somewhat unconnected fills. But the changes are good.
Could you put up some notes with the chord progressions, save me (us) going thru and figuring it all out? Especially the 7th or suspended or whatever chords you throw in there, my ear isn't good enough to decipher those.
Just listened to the 'drums version' of Scuff's blues for the first time. Nice job Terry, very restrained, I like how you backed right off during the change. It gives the song some air or breathing room.
Having said that, if you get a chance to go over my stuff, especially 'punketo', feel free to do your best Keith Moon or whatever - noisy and full are the order of the day there.
Come on prime! Get in the game
Justin - The main riff - I like the original a little more, however no reason you couldn't add that change for dynamic's once each time around and leave the rest as it was. If you don't know what I mean, I'll fire up cooledit and isolate the riff and upload it to the server.
I like some of the new stuff you added, it's hard for me to articulate what parts exactly but I'll make some time to extract which ones and again, upload them to the server for you.
Good job Justin, this is progress dude. :thumbup
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My next toy, the purchase has been cleared with the gf and I'm as good as owning them. I've been having a hardtime juggling my band, laying beats behind our stuff and getting quality practice time in which I need but this is my answer to that.
I had the opportunity to try a set of these out the other night and it floored me, I always stayed away from the idea of owning electronic drums but not anymore. I was blown away at how easily you can make these things sound like acoustic drums and am thoroughly sold on these. No longer will I have problems getting practice time since I can play them literally 24/7 at home by using the headphones. Furthermore, they will greatly enhance my contribution to this project as I can do it all from home". I'm so excited I could pee myself.
It's hard to explain, but it has to do with the wiring in my house, the network cabling setup that I have, the distance of the retail store that has the right cables I need for my mixer, and my wife's work schedule. Throw a little bit of "not enough time" and "two boys who want to play with dad all the time" and you have a recipe for "Delta 44 sitting there just itching to get used"....
I myself have a new addition to the musical family, New Les Paul!!! Now maybe I can get past that annoying lack of tone that has plauged me for so long. I am going to the site to look for any mods you might have posted Bonz, and if you can give me an idea of the song you are talking about and which section/time it is in, I will be happy to elaborate and play with it. Glad to hear about your drums man, those should be sweet!!! We're on our way!!!
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The drums are the built in set in the BR864, not terrible tho I left them too high in the mix in this case. The mp3 shows in Media Player as 3:41 when in fact it's over 4:30, not sure what's up with that.
It's called 'Sky Dogs'. I uploaded it this evening
What we really need is some bass lines to help tie the guitars and drums together. I might be more stoked in getting something done.
Just an idea, but, maybe we could look for a bass player outside of this site. I know of a few decent music forums where we could find such a person. Or should we keep this totally pure with only SM members participating?
Side note - I just paid off my brand new Ludwig kit. They are 100% better then my previous drums and sound great recorded.
As for software, I'd warmly recommend Samplitude. It is trickier than cooledit or even cubase: the mother of stupid recording soft I'd say: maybe I just couldn't become friends with it, and it refused to do what I wanted, or it didn't like my old cel466 nor its sh***y soundcard, I wouldn't know. I have since refused to try it again.
But with the mix of Samplitude, Drumagog and Reason, you probably get the most out of the stuff (with reasonable skills and hearing, that is). At least this is my personal preference and it was recommended by several good sound engineers, who use those in their studios.
This is my first post as I only discovered this site today though it has been most useful already. I'm intrigued to know if this thread is still alive and kicking or not. I’m guessing, looking at the frequency of posts it may have died but I'm still interested. I have just finished a degree in Music Tech and Digital Multimedia and Have a limited amount of studio experience. My background is predominantly dance music (Funky House, Electo-funk and breakbeat, with a bit of garage and trance thrown in) though I do also play lead guitar reasonably well.
I haven’t read the whole thread as to read the whole lot would take days but if there is anything I can do help I'd be interested. My software knowledge is Cubase, Logic, Reason, Cooledit and I have a set of studio amp and decent speakers for mastering
That’s my life story if any one wants to throw stuff my way then feel free to PM or Email